Warfare & Tactics

By shooting the wrecks of course :)


My question is; is there anyway of doing this without getting concorded for it?

Quickly join their corp? Have them quickly join your corp? Send a duel request? Ask them to abandon it?

I mean sure I can afford a 1mil thrasher to do this and the results are definitely worth it as the pinata disappears in a puff of smoke whilst the miscreants are still gloating in local but the hassle of KRs and sec status on my otherwise unblemished character mean I'll have to resort to a -10 alt unless I can abuse the mechanics somehow!

You can't tractor a wreck that is yellow.

If you don't want to get Concorded, you can steal the contents of the can before they get to it. You'll go suspect but at least you will have a chance of not losing your ship.

Hehe, I see that last nite got you thinking
While there is no official 'legal' way of scooping loot or destroying the wreck for anyone outside the ganked pilot's corp, goons/code have figured out a combination which actually allows you to scoop stuff from a wreck without going blinky with the hauler. I've petitioned it to see how CCP feels about it, and once the response is in we can talk about it.
In the mean time best ways of denieing loot are stealing and ganking the wreck. Personally I prefer the former as it can make some isk for your anti-ganking effort ;-) .

Well, you seem to mistake me for some ethically driven person . Being a former solo ganker myself (and future one maybe, who knows if and when I'll go back to my lawless ways) I'm not really concerned about what is right and what is wrong when it comes to ganking and/or stealing loot. I don't think ganking per se is a bad thing for EVE, quite contrary, I think that the fact that you can be attacked anywhere through variety of ways is a good thing that separates this game from most others. However I also think that the some aspects of ganking need a bit of work.

Namely, new players need to be properly informed about the risks of ganking through NPE. One should be aware, from day one, that hisec does not equal safety from unprovoked aggression. If people still chose to (afk) haul plexes or billions in loot in their industrial ships, not use cloaks on blockade runners and not learn to make insta-dock bm's in Jita once they know the risks, well maybe they deserve to lose their stuff. Same can be said for freighter pilots not using scouts or intel channels.

Bumping is somewhat problematic, however there is a number of counters to it so I wouldn't complain too much there as the mechanic is used for a variety of other things (supers, bumping away from gates etc.).

Finally, the fact that in most cases (unless there are cargo containers or contact packages larger then fleet hanger) you can loot without any risk for the looter is simply wrong. At least freighter switching involves some risk, but fleet hanger thing is silly and quite outside the actions-consequences mantra of EVE. There should be something on the line when looting, more then a disposable alt in a shuttle.

Fly to wreck.
Jettison BM in your hold.
drag n drop contents of freighter wreck into your own can
shoot your can

You will be a suspect but won't get concorded and no kill rights assigned.
Disadvantage, you can only do this once every three minutes unless you have multiple toons on grid.