Intergalactic Summit

I see. Either you do not actually know what you are talking about, or the State is magic. I can only assume that you must know what you are talking about. Consequently, against magic it is I who must concede that the State is not burdened by the refugee crisis caused by Amarr's "internal" racist cult.

Sadly, neither the Federation nor the Republic have mastered the magic of finding two optimal solutions for efficiency in accordance with the rhetorical needs of individuals who have gotten in over their heads.

In the woefully underdeveloped Federation, the path to one's "proper place" is not governed by magic, but by a labor market. When a labor market experiences a sudden influx of refugees, the "value" of labor is disturbed in accordance with mundane economic reality. Political opportunists use turbulence in labor markets to incite those who fear for their livelihoods against all manner of imagined threats, foreign and domestic. In this way, Amarr's "internal" racist cult exports the paradigm of racism.

It is conceded that this failing of the Federation's ideals would be ameliorated by substituting magic for labor markets. Someone should get on that.

However, in the absence of pretending away economic reality, Amarr imposes what economists who do not believe in magic might refer to as "external costs" on neighbors. States without magic have an interest in seeing the living conditions for the victims of Amarr's racist cult improve to the point where they do not need to flee atrocities.

Of course, "one of ... the best" outcomes would be for Matari victims of Amarr's racist cult to be able to return to their home worlds in a manner that does not overwhelm the similarly magic-deprived Republic's ability to absorb them. Tangentially, the Republic might have been able to absorb more of its people more quickly if only its infrastructure had not been destroyed by an "internal" racist cult.

Racist tools apologizing for racist cultists makes either an acceptable or "one of ... the best" outcomes less likely than would be the case in the absence of racist tools. Well played, racist tools.

The IGS in a nutshell, ladies and gentlemen.

Just because we are flawed and impure, does not mean that God does not want to love us. He would not have given us the Reclaiming if He didn't. It just means we have to work harder to make up for our sins and prove ourselves to Him. There's nothing wrong with being a servant. There is purpose in that.

You're looking for rewards from God instead of what you can give to Him. He owes nothing to us. We owe everything to Him.



No, because it was our choice that made us impure. We were all pure True Amarr once. Our ancestors turned their back on God and fell, and so arose non-Amarrian people from their tainted blood.



Our homeworlds are the places we were born and raised, in the culture we grew up in. For most Amarrian Minmatar that's the Empire, not the Republic.

Ms. Rella,

Tell that to the hundreds of people who live in Sorrow's Gash. I'm sure they will all agree that their rise and fall was all based on their own merits and not some superstitions.

-Eran

So the Lord sent forth the Chosen,
to bring forth the light of faith
And those who embrace His love
Shall be saved by His grace
For we are His shepherds in the darkness
His Angels of Mercy.
- Reclaiming 4:45

Chosen, you are first before God.
You are the True and the Faithful.
But in such a state must you hold yourselves high above all.
And constantly prove yourself worthy of God's Love.
- Anoyia's Exhortation


To start.

God's Love is an important part of Scripture. He wants to love us. But we must accept His love, and make ourselves deserving of it.

Of course.



Of course. The magic tube baby wizards have seen the future, and they know which refugees will arrive. They have avoided making magic tube babies to fill the work that will be filled by said arriving refugees. Just when a task arises, a refugee appears to fill it. Remarkable! The number of tasks emerging precisely matches the number of arriving refugees. Amazing! A refugee performs the task as long as necessary before acquiring new skills and moving up into a new function. At precisely that time, a new refugee arrives to perform the old task. Astounding! The refugee moving up replaces another refugee who has also acquired new skills in precisely the right time frame. That refugee moved into a function that was occupied by a magic tube baby whose life expectancy was precisely forecast by the magic tube baby wizards.

Right.

In reality, you are "bullshitting." Magic tube babies are no more suited for a task than anyone else.

No matter. I have conceded that the State has absolved itself of any role in this human tragedy. The Federation has "failed" to see the merits of magic tube baby marketing bullshit. Consequently, it must contend with the external costs imposed on it by Amarr. As I am a citizen of the Federation, contrary to the whining which preceded the bullshiting about magic tube babies, I therefore have an interest in Amarr's "internal" racist cult.

Ah. Arrogance and stupidity in the same package - how delightfully efficient you are. Since plain speaking is apparently not plain enough for you, I'll try being blunt instead.

One. Tubechildren are not engineered or batched for the kind of work the State allows the dispossessed to do. I was engineered to fulfill the role of orbital security officer and most security chiefs would rather crap their own kidneys than hire indigent scum to be officers of the law. Ditto for engineers, administrators, skilled factory workers and any other skilled or responsible labour. Got that? So, yes, no Tubechildren have been batched to fill any work that will be carried out by refugees - because the dispossessed are good only for unskilled labour and only an idiot would pay to specifically engineer people to do unskilled, brute labour.

Two. The State maintains efficiency in its dispossessed labour pool by not caring that there is enough unskilled work for any given planned or static pool of workers AND not endeavouring to maintain those dispossessed who are not working to any degree. If they are not contributing economically and socially, they are not eating.The only possible inefficiency is that there would be more work than workers - in which case the company might have to find sufficient workers in another place and freight them in - raising the price per man-hour slightly (Any capsuleer knows how cheap it is to shift a few hundred people a couple of jumps in highsec).

Third. Only someone hopelessly indoctrinated in magic bullshit equality propaganda would contend that everyone is equally suitable for every vocation. It is abundandtly self-evident to most of the cluster that certain types of people are better at certain types of tasks. You can sift a large pool of candidates for the criteria desired through testing and interview AND you can genetically engineer people to be predisposed to strengths in those criteria.

Hi. I'm genetically predisposed to excel in certain criteria. I am demonstrably better than you in pretty much every way for the vocation that was chosen for me. Let's be kind and leave it at that - I'm sure there's some sort of task that people like you are good at too and I'm sure a team of experts in the field of vocational alignment could find it, given enough lab space and funding.

Four. You elected to jump with both feet into issues that didn't involve you - it's a cultural trait of the Gallente. Since you decided to help liberate the Matari, help establish the Republic and provide a destination for the vast majority of those Minmatar who didn't want to settle in either the Empire or the Republic you have VOLUNTARILY decided to shoulder the burden of all those costs. Nobody made you do it. You can blame nobody but yourselves. I shudder to think what feats your economy would be capable of if you didn't decide to throw huge chunks of your GDP away on such fools errands - but I'm glad you do so.

God has great hate indeed, for blasphemers and sinners such as you. His Wrath is Immense and His Tolerance Limited.

He will drown you in your own blood when your judgment comes, heretic.

More bullshit. Bourbon Limoges is shocked. If they are not eating, they are stealing - imposing costs. For those who fail to steal enough, there is the biohazard of decomposing bodies which must be cleaned up. For those who are caught stealing, there are the costs of administrating justice. Those costs represent inefficiencies that you did not enumerate because, let's face it, you are a pompous idiot who has risen to a level above his comfort zone.

Let me guess, more magic bullshit is incoming.

In reality: economists who are not magic test tube idiots engineered to hope they are better at something than non engineered non test tubers understand that a refugee crisis imposes external costs on neighboring states (small 's'). The magic test tube idiot is invited to research something like "costs of refugee crises on neighboring states" in his own time.

Further reality: the best (as opposed to "one of .. best") solution to a refugee crisis is not to have one.

Conclusive reality: all states without access to magic test tube baby bullshit have an interest in seeing Amarr become the kind of place where millions upon millions of people do not try desperately to flee. Amarr's racist little cult is therefore not an "internal" matter.

The pompous gasbag is invited to explore the difference in cost between feeding, clothing, housing, entertaining and educating a worthless population for life and the electricity required to open and close an airlock door. But then this has always been more about providing some sort of facile justification for interfering in other cultures than actual sociology, hasn't it?

Have you listened to yourself? You are SERIOUSLY arguing for the existence of some raging social crisis within the State caused by tides of refugee Matari flooding into all our worlds and colonies and placing a huge stress on Caldari law-enforcement. You are arguing this based off of PolSci 101 level theory and you are doing so against someone who is actually ex-Caldari Law Enforcement!

You're positing the existence of this imaginary tide based off of smoke and mirrors and you're doing it in strident opposition to a man who can check the truth of it by opening his front door and going for a walk!

Not only am I now certain you know absolutely nothing about the State, the Empire and the Republic but I am increasingly confident you're not even very clear on how things work in the Federation - where your own huge problem with an in-flood of refugees is caused by you funding the revolution and consequent fighting that created them coupled with you inviting them into your home space.

Not only that, but you seem to have a serious case of genetic envy. What's the matter? Fraying telomeres got you down?

To put this into terms you might comprehend - most, if not all, of the social problems that beset your society can likely be traced to your tendency to interfere without thinking things through first. You should probably look into fixing this before blaming everything on other people not being willing to change their own ways to suit you.