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Bleah **** sake, i posted a nice answer, clicked post and it all disappeared.

Well, not writing it again, have fun
**** eve forum got the win.

Just like he did with my ticker, dunno how many years ago since i joined a fleet.

You know what i mean by saying cheat.

First of all i have seen every of the movies from PL that is released.

And secondly, there are some PL members that have made movies from low sec and some 0.0 sec space where they mostly are sitting ready at their Titan in low sec ready to drop 20 ships where 8-10 of those are faction BS'es into 10-12 pirates in Battlecruisers in low sec.

And this is why i'm commenting on the PL movies, since you are commenting here and are from PL.

The examples i'm talking about now was made earlier sometimes. I don't remember exactly when they was made. But they are in fact way worser than this movie even when the movies from those PL members are better sat together. It's the content that is extremely bad in those PL movies.

Now i'm not saying everyone from PL are making crappy movies. I'm just pointing out that members from PL shouldn't talk to much about making good movies when some of the members from PL are making WAY worser movies.

I'm the only one here that defends this movie since i'm the only one here that ARE commenting on it that are doing empire wars right now that understand this movie.

It doesn't comes as a suprise that every of the comments in this topic except for mine are from 0.0 space bears?

Again, you all don't get empire wars and how empire wars movies are made.

Again, if someone don't like empire wars movies, then SIMPLY don't download the movie and don't even comment in the topic about it then.

And the fact that someone in here thinks it's bad that Rebirth. are using neutral logistics and expensive implants and so on. The funny thing is that they do it because everyone is doing that pretty much in empire.

Does that comes as a suprise to you?

It's the same with me, i'm always using LG Slaves and LG Crystals and damage / ROF implants and i'm not using my Vindicator or my other ships without alliance RR's and neutral logictics behind my ass, simply because empire wars where we as mercs gets contracted have to have best possible stats as possible with pretty much as few losses as possible.

Again, do you guys get empire wars / mercs in empire at all???

Then let me ask on what's so boring with the video compared to some videos from 0.0 space?

And you said this: A key factor in the success behind a pvp video (apart from editing and pilot skill) is to induce a sense of risk into the viewer so they are thinking "damn is he going to die?

Yeah, you didn't watch the last fight in the movie right when they warped in a feck tons of ships into the station in Rens?

The first thing i was thinking when they warped in was that Rebirth. was going to lose badly. But hey, they know how to do PVP and they won.

And you didn't watch the fight where Red Glaze was in his Abaddon (with 1 or 2 others on his side) letting 3-4 other BS'es shoot him at the gate while being repped by a logistic?

That wasn't risky at all?

It was a tactic they used to let all of them aggress him (so they couldn't jump out) and then warp in the rest of the 4-5 BS'es Rebirth. had to the gate where this was happening, just to kill them. And this is a normal procedure in todays PVP, even in 0.0 space.

And to the things with neutral logistics again. It gets as much fun with those than without them, because you never know how many neutral logistics the enemies are going to use. For all we know, they can have 6 neutral logistics that we don't even knows about while we can have 2.

You see why this can get pretty intresting even when someone might find neutral logistics to be boring?

Again, you don't get empire wars at all.

1. If you can't be bothered to watch longer than 2 mins even after the corp and alliance ticker clearly says that this is an empire war movie, then i'm sorry to say it but you did the mistake to actually download the movie in the first place if you absolutely don't like empire war movies.

Yes, this might comes as a suprise to you, but a part of doing empire wars is doing baiting at gates AND stations.

Last time i was in MBALM, after i bought my Vindicator, then 2x Rattlesnakes from Privateers (war targets) was fking with us outside of station. They was fking with us for so long time that we had the time to build up a fleet of about 10 BS'es in Jita 4-4 station. Because killing those 2 Rattlesnakes within 1 min was impossible with 5 BS'es.

Both of the Rattlesnakes had 400+k EHP. So what we did was to set up a trap when we was ready. We undocked a nicely tanked Abaddon while having a neutral logistic and both Rattlesnakes attacked him. Then 1 second later, we undocked with 9-10 new BS'es included with my Vindicator.

The second after we all undoked, they started to deaggress. But, we had so much DPS now that both got killed within 1 minute, also before they could dock.

And i can say it right now, it was not us who smacked in local after that. Because normally, we don't smack without a reason.

2. Like i said in my post over, not all movies from 0.0 space are boring. But most movies from 0.0 space are deadly boring because, 1) Blobbing and playing with way more players than the enemies have, 2) Cap ships blobbing to hell and back, 3) lots of movies from 0.0 space are lagging badly and make the whole watching experience like crap.

That's some of the main reasons why i enjoy watching movies from empire more than movies from 0.0 space.

3. Logistics are a big part of PVP. Just live with it. If you don't like logistics, then you can't like carrier bobbing either because that's logistics in a way that to.

4. Oh noes, a guy in an Abaddon is getting repped by a logistic while being shot by 4-5 BS'es lol. Damn, that's something new to EVE .

After reading your answers here, you still don't get empire wars at all. It's as simple as that.

1. Ok good. Because Logistics is a big part of how PVP is in empire, low sec and 0.0 space is working. So Logistics is supposed to be expected in most situations when it's about PVP. So if you don't like to watch PVP movies where Logistics are used, then maybe watching a movie where a Golem is shooting npc's doing level 4 missions will be a better choice for you.

2. OHAI GUYS, I'M SO AWESOME THAT I THINK NIGHTMAREX IS THE ONLY ONE ON THE EVE FORUM THAT TRIES TO BYPASS THE CHAT FILTER....................,OR............ WAIT A SEC.

3. I'm not angry at all. I'm just trying to explain to someone that empire PVP is a big part of PVP in the whole. So when someone releases a movie from empire, then logistics and baiting at gates and station is a normal thing to see. So again, if you don't like PVP from empire, then no one is forcing you to download it.

This movie is far from just undocking in some BS'es to kill a lone target outside of a station.

Yes, many of the fights in this movie is done at gates and some at the station. But this is not fights where 10 warps into 2 guys there, this is where 12-15 warps into 15-20 guys and maybe more in some of the fights. Yes some few fights is a bit boring since it's pure gank, but the rest of the fights is actually pretty good fights when you take it into consideration that it's done in empire from doing empire wars.

It's not often you get good fights from doing empire wars, that's for sure.

Oh, using neutral logistics in empire is not any worser than jumping in 1 or 2 carriers into a fight with 8-10 Battleships in low sec.

The logical reason here is that empire war movies sucks for you and others here and that you shouldn't even be here to whine.

But again, why download a movie and then whine like a kid because you don't like the movie when you CLEARLY know what you are downloading?

Nah, you don't get empire wars and have to blaim the movie to be bad when it's you guys that are bad at understanding how empire wars are working.

double post ftw