Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This is something I can totally get behind. Especially regarding Minmatar and Caldari outposts.

Pease make stations big like the Unidentified Structures? Pretty please?

Again with this "make EVE bigger" junk. I'm not opposed to it as much as concerned on whether the server can handle the increased size. This isn't even mentioning the time and money needed to accomplish this server wide. Plus, I doubt anyone here now has the knowledge on programming to know how to go about this in EVE or the knowledge of the code used to make EVE.

I'm all for immersion but reality is a cruel mistress.


As for the rest, it seems like "visual eye candy" rather than some update with substance, except for crashing into other ships, please no. I don't want suicide gankers ramming me with their ships for extra damage.

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AU is an actual unit of measurement

Where to start here... well, the most unrealistic thing you have on here is the expectation that this deserves a response from CCP. They don't owe anyone a response and ideas far more popular and better thought out than this don't get direct responses.



This is more or less hand-waved in Lore. Also you're severely under-estimating the potential consequences of endless acceleration. Just for a start MWDs need a complete rebalance, since you only gain mass while they're on you won't lose speed once they're off anymore.

In short, this would completely break the game.



Eve is not a realistic space sim. Take deep breaths and repeat as needed.

Also, as someone who has actually done 3D modeling work this is actually a ton of work. Like, probably a year to go through and add stuff like this to every single model and it would probably cause problems on lower end machines running all of those little animations and everything.



Again, hand-waved in Lore. Spacial compression tech is a wonderful thing.

Also this would result in stations the size of small moons, and IMO that's not very aesthetically pleasing. Plus all of the art work to make said stations not look like crap when scaled up ridiculously. Oh and massive changes to the docking range of everything, because it's suddenly 10x or more the size it used to be.



I'm really having a hard time with how you think this would have no game mechanics consequences. Stopping your ship is kind of important for stuff like, you know, staying inside a POS, not bouncing off a gate or capital ship, positioning inside a mining belt, getting to range to snipe, salvaging, the list goes on.



It's easier to convert between AUs and Kilometers and gives a lovely sense of the scale of the world since you can look at a map of the solar system and go "oh, wow, 1AU is a lot".

Also the "volume" stats on ships are pure fiction, they're not even internally consistent and aren't updated when the models change. Some quick back of the napkin math on an Avatar will tell you that its "volume" stat is off by at least two zeroes. There's no problem with measuring the volume of a ship in cubic meters though, since that's how everything else is measured. Also "units" makes perfect sense. Having 1 round of ammo makes sense, having 20 liters of ammo does not.

Also, as a last note, the physics model in Eve is entirely sphere based. It's the entire reason we can have so many ships on screen, because the physics calculations are incredibly simple. At worst ships are made of of more than one sphere and it's very easy to run an oct-tree on just spheres. Ignoring the massive balance implications of ramming damage there is literally no room in the current physics model for ramming animations since ships don't have any sort of robust collision model.

lol @ how much you missed the point / can't imagine what we're talking about.

At least what I'm proposing... would mean TOTAL redesigns of pretty much every station, from scratch. Even if any kept the same shapes because we like them, OBVIOUSLY they would need new textures.

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Again... you're imagining just taking the existing, single-giant-object stations we have, and just adding (++++) to the "size modifier".
Do you even HAVE an imagination?

It absolutely would bring in new players if this game was updated into the 21st century.

EVE is currently just invisible spheres floating in a 3D "space" (things move more like underwater), each sphere with a radius, mass amount, speed (or lack of), and then the traits that make it what it is... you can interact with it in X way, you can put guns on it and they do X damage...

We're given the data on our sphere, all the others, and their relations to each other, through spreadsheets on our screen mostly, or the ship control HUD...

The interior of stations doesn't exist in the same world as where our spheres are floating...

The planets shown in PI mode don't exist in that world either, it's a separate menu that is just a viewing window and a menu...

This game is very old, and simple.

If CCP even made an effort to update the game rather than just add new crap... It most definitely would attract new players.

Case in point, look at mother f*cking Star Citizen. I'm pretty sure it's made, practically before the game was started... with serious doubts that it will even be finished... more than CCP has made in it's 10 year existence. An exaggeration I'm sure, but you get the point... people are throwing money at SC, just begging to play a modern space sim.

Say what you will about the comparisons between EVE and SC, say what you will about SC being a scam and never going to be released/be what it claims to be... the fact is that people are DYING to play a better space game.

Did you see the video for EVE Valkyrie? Incredible... first person tiny fighter flying in between EVE fleets, seeing an Avatar warp in on top of you, it was EPIC.

oh boy i could feel Reina's sense of self entitlement from the main page of the forums. Effort for your dream image of EVE requires time and money, care to cough up the millions that it would take to do that? CCP has to prioritize, it has to allocate resources efficiently just to stay afloat. It's nice you like star citizen and all but quit comparing it to EVE, they are different. You might as well say "I want CCP to recode the entirety of EVE Online with newer, better coding "

Bigger stations yes, but for bigger stations they would need different sections with their own textures. As you close in on the station certain sections increase in quality, while the others use smaller LOD textures. It's the only way to make it look good while close while not making it a lagfest. Is it worth their time to change how models work to make that possible? Well I think so, but they might not.

Now I am convinced you know nothing of which you speak of. Recoding EVE might has well be making the whole game from square one, no owner of a MMO would do that thanks to the amount of time and money that already went into making in the first place. Common sense dictates to patch the old code rather than remake it.

Newsflash: we all pay to play this game, but it doesn't mean we're entitled to anything, just look at the last few updates like jump fatigue.

What CCP does with their money is their issue, seems like they're trying to spread their nets wider to get more money.

I never said they CAN'T afford to update their game, after all they update it every 6 weeks now. you're just overly concerned about aesthetics to see that they have more important matters to deal with.

Edit: sooner or later they'll get to it, just not all at once.

Not supported if only because of the massive art work requirement, also because this new game would be cool ( love my kerbal overlords and the honor harrington novels) but the game you are describing is patently "not eve"