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How does Projectile L ammo fit

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Rawketsled
Generic Corp Name
#21 - 2015-03-19 22:25:25 UTC
I always thought they were put in sideways. 1400mm long, 425mm wide.


Amak Boma wrote:
they are compressed with winrar before loading to gun and when loading takes rpocessing its decompressed into full size.

in reality most likely ammunition is assembled during load

I think you mean Minrar.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2015-03-19 22:33:59 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
Antonia Iskarius wrote:
It is called a sabot.

Guns, how do they work?



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Except there are no BPOs for sabots, we never have to buy them, or build them, or load them. If they allow a 425 mm round to fit 1600 mm gun, then they would be larger than the round. Yet they use no cargo space?

Maybe the sabot is a small weak force field generated by the round. We have these in real life, they're using them to try to attempt fusion without burning through the holding container. Prevents the core from touching the sides of the container.

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Amonios Zula
Aeon Ascendant
#23 - 2015-03-19 23:21:02 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:

Maybe the sabot is a small weak force field generated by the round. We have these in real life, they're using them to try to attempt fusion without burning through the holding container. Prevents the core from touching the sides of the container.

Could be even simpler than that, if the sabot was kinda like a reinforced/sprung umbrella that just expands when loaded with explosive charge in a larger calibre weapon.

wouldn't be much point overcomplicating a round of ammo or the cannon that fires it.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#24 - 2015-03-19 23:26:56 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
Antonia Iskarius wrote:
It is called a sabot.

Guns, how do they work?



This Smile

Except there are no BPOs for sabots, we never have to buy them, or build them, or load them. If they allow a 425 mm round to fit 1600 mm gun, then they would be larger than the round. Yet they use no cargo space?


Maybe the vanilla ammo comes stock with the sabot @1400mm, and the smaller weapons have a mechanism that de-sabots the round before chambering it.

Maybe also, the ammo has multiple sabots (think nesting doll), and that's why it also fits the 800s etc!

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xavier zor2
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#25 - 2015-03-19 23:29:10 UTC
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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#26 - 2015-03-19 23:32:40 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Vincent Athena wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
Antonia Iskarius wrote:
It is called a sabot.

Guns, how do they work?



This Smile

Except there are no BPOs for sabots, we never have to buy them, or build them, or load them. If they allow a 425 mm round to fit 1600 mm gun, then they would be larger than the round. Yet they use no cargo space?


Maybe the vanilla ammo comes stock with the sabot @1400mm, and the smaller weapons have a mechanism that de-sabots the round before chambering it.

Maybe also, the ammo has multiple sabots (think nesting doll), and that's why it also fits the 800s etc!

Then I want the option to remove the nested sabots before I use them in a ship with smaller guns. That way I can carry more ammo.

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#27 - 2015-03-20 00:17:58 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Vincent Athena wrote:

Except there are no BPOs for sabots, we never have to buy them, or build them, or load them. If they allow a 425 mm round to fit 1600 mm gun, then they would be larger than the round. Yet they use no cargo space?


Maybe the vanilla ammo comes stock with the sabot @1400mm, and the smaller weapons have a mechanism that de-sabots the round before chambering it.

Maybe also, the ammo has multiple sabots (think nesting doll), and that's why it also fits the 800s etc!

Then I want the option to remove the nested sabots before I use them in a ship with smaller guns. That way I can carry more ammo.


They'll explode prematurely unless the procedure is done with the right equipment, and unfortunately that equipment is integrated into the weapons ammo feeder. All attempts to build a stand alone unit have failed as it is proprietary technology of the weapons original manufacturer and they refuse to release the schematics and specifications. To prevent reverse engineering, the housings have been outfitted with a nanobot derived self destruct mechanism which turns the sabot remover to constituent elements if tampered with.

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Cade Windstalker
#28 - 2015-03-20 00:49:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Cade Windstalker
CCP Falcon wrote:
Antonia Iskarius wrote:
It is called a sabot.

Guns, how do they work?



This Smile


Just to take this and run with it, then why are Railguns measured in terms of barrel diameter? I'd much rather have them measured in kilowatts!
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#29 - 2015-03-20 01:02:03 UTC
once you explained that, try to explain square cannon barrels #goodLuck

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Rawketsled
Generic Corp Name
#30 - 2015-03-20 01:11:10 UTC
Cade Windstalker wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
Antonia Iskarius wrote:
It is called a sabot.

Guns, how do they work?



This Smile


Just to take this and run with it, then why are Railguns measured in terms of barrel diameter? I'd must rather have them measured in kilowatts!

Barrel diameter has a pretty significant influence field strength.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#31 - 2015-03-20 04:25:29 UTC
Bienator II wrote:
once you explained that, try to explain square cannon barrels #goodLuck


Minmatar engineering found that you could not fit a square peg into a round hole, but you could in fact fit a round peg in a square hole.

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No Class
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2015-03-20 07:22:54 UTC
Sabot rounds suck for auto loaders. The rounds get jammed in the breach due to heat produced and fast cycle times. I have missed many targets because of it.
Chenguang Hucel-Ge
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2015-03-20 07:34:23 UTC
While it's somewhat sick, the ammo probably got the lowest of all calibers of all listed. Rest is fixed with overjacket, possibly with extra payload.
Also, don't forget one of the reasons to fly Naglfar. It's not just vertical, it shoots pancakes!
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
#34 - 2015-03-20 08:14:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Harrison Tato
The projectiles are made of NERF foam. (Newtonically Enhanced Resizable Foam)
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#35 - 2015-03-20 08:27:41 UTC
Kw1jybo wrote:
So it fits in 1400 arty, and 425 autocannons. How does the same round fit in the guns differing by almost a full meter in diameter?


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Ka'Narlist
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#36 - 2015-03-20 10:10:55 UTC
But if they use sabots to fit th same projectile in diffrent weapon sizes shouldn't they do the same damage?
Kary Franks
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#37 - 2015-03-20 10:21:59 UTC
The real question is that how do large projectile ammo divide into several smaller ammo when used in dual 425 mm autocannon?
Garnoo
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#38 - 2015-03-20 11:26:54 UTC
i would say ammo is made from yhhhhmmm.... specific male body parts that in some circumstances grows.... and fits into larger caliber :D

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Yuka Mayaki
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2015-03-20 13:47:19 UTC
Chenguang Hucel-Ge wrote:

Also, don't forget one of the reasons to fly Naglfar. It's not just vertical, it shoots pancakes!


ohh...i allways thought my nagl is shooting some giant balls of duct tape filled with compressed Fredos.

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Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2015-03-20 17:23:35 UTC
Bienator II wrote:
once you explained that, try to explain square cannon barrels #goodLuck


Square sabots.
Sheesh. That's wasn't even hard.
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