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Ship Skins // New Player Structures @ the Fanfest

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Iroquoiss Pliskin
9B30FF Labs
#1 - 2015-03-19 20:32:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Iroquoiss Pliskin
o/

Now, I've read the blog - https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/a-glimpse-into-the-future-of-ship-skins/ and have (only) listened to the Fanfest Ship Skin presentation today, yet I still have one question that many of you are probably going to be asking very soon.

Question is: Is it enough to have, let's say, an Omen Kador Edition to "own" the Kador skin - Would you be able to apply it to a stock Abaddon, without actually having owned the Abaddon Kador Edition? Smile

I've missed watching the part on Ship Skins today, can anyone clue/provide the link where it is stored on CCP's twich channel?

http://www.twitch.tv/ccp

I think it was during Game Design Panel.

Regards,

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

P.S.: Source: http://www.twitch.tv/ccp/b/638754943

1) Ship SKINs start at 6:30:00
2) New proposed Player Structures follow the above presentation and lasts till 7:05:00.

For my thoughts on the Structure Project - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5594259#post5594259 & https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5594265#post5594265 Smile
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#2 - 2015-03-19 20:37:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Iroquoiss Pliskin wrote:
Question is: Is it enough to have, let's say, an Omen Kador Edition to "own" the Kador skin - Would you be able to apply it to a stock Abaddon, without actually having owned the Abaddon Kador Edition? Smile)

Wishful thinking. No, based on what was shown.

There is no whole-of-faction skin as such. It's individual hull skins.

It was in the keynote speech.
Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2015-03-19 20:41:13 UTC
Yeah, that's how I understood it too. In your example, you'd need the "Kador" license for both the Omen Hull and the Abaddon hull.
Iroquoiss Pliskin
9B30FF Labs
#4 - 2015-03-19 20:41:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Iroquoiss Pliskin
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Iroquoiss Pliskin wrote:
Question is: Is it enough to have, let's say, an Omen Kador Edition to "own" the Kador skin - Would you be able to apply it to a stock Abaddon, without actually having owned the Abaddon Kador Edition? Smile)

Wishful thinking. No, based on what was shown.

You own the hull skin, not faction skin.


So you must have a Kador BS sitting in dock someplace to apply the same paint to a new one? That's an awkward system.

How does the Genolution 'Auroral' AU-79 implant fit into this? The golden Genolution Auroral 197-Variant pod. Blink

Quote:
It was in the keynote speech.


Could you be more specific, I need to review it. Smile
Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2015-03-19 20:45:23 UTC
The skin isn't tied to the hull. You buy a license for it. You can then apply that skin to every one of those hulls you ever have.

Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#6 - 2015-03-19 20:47:35 UTC
Iroquoiss Pliskin wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Iroquoiss Pliskin wrote:
Question is: Is it enough to have, let's say, an Omen Kador Edition to "own" the Kador skin - Would you be able to apply it to a stock Abaddon, without actually having owned the Abaddon Kador Edition? Smile)

Wishful thinking. No, based on what was shown.

You own the hull skin, not faction skin.


So you must have a Kador BS sitting in dock someplace to apply the same paint to a new one? That's an awkward system.

How does the Genolution 'Auroral' AU-79 implant fit into this? The golden Genolution Auroral 197-Variant pod. Blink

It seems the new system involves injecting the skin, so I don't think it sits in a hangar somewhere.

Up until you inject it, it can be traded on the market. Once injected, it is permanently injected.

You can then hot swap the look of your ship at any time it looked like, even while in space. No need to be docked.

I don't imagine it will affect the golden pod implant at all, but who knows. That wasn't discussed. It would kind of make some sense to roll that into the skinning mechanic, so I guess we'll have to see.

Quote:
Quote:
It was in the keynote speech.


Could you be more specific, I need to review it. Smile

Ok. It was discussed by CCP Seagull in the keynote.

102 new skins, bringing the total to about 130.

Minute wise, about the middle.
Niobe Song
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2015-03-19 20:59:50 UTC
Wasn't it something along the lines of "You buy the "skin" you have it forever attached to your character. Any time you fly a ship that can use that skin you have the option of turning it on in the fitting screen.

So if I buy the Kador skin I can use it for my Omen, Apocalypse, Punisher. But not my Dominix. If any of those ships are destroyed I do not lose anything. I just turn it on again with the next ship I buy.
Cista2
EVE Museum
#8 - 2015-03-19 21:09:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Cista2
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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#9 - 2015-03-19 21:19:55 UTC
Niobe Song wrote:
Wasn't it something along the lines of "You buy the "skin" you have it forever attached to your character. Any time you fly a ship that can use that skin you have the option of turning it on in the fitting screen.

So if I buy the Kador skin I can use it for my Omen, Apocalypse, Punisher. But not my Dominix. If any of those ships are destroyed I do not lose anything. I just turn it on again with the next ship I buy.

Yes to the first part.

No to the second part based on what was shown. It's a hull skin, not a faction skin.

I hope I'm wrong, but that's what I got out of it.
Iroquoiss Pliskin
9B30FF Labs
#10 - 2015-03-19 23:05:36 UTC
Ned Thomas wrote:
The skin isn't tied to the hull. You buy a license for it. You can then apply that skin to every one of those hulls you ever have.



What of those ships that people do already have, like the above Kador Edition Omen -- will this qualify as a licence is the question!
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#11 - 2015-03-19 23:07:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Arthur Aihaken
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Wishful thinking. No, based on what was shown.
There is no whole-of-faction skin as such. It's individual hull skins.
It was in the keynote speech.

Actually, the devs previously indicated there would be two types of skins: Ones for individual hulls and ones that could be applied across different hulls of the same race. How many of the 'multi-hull' skins will be released and the cost difference is anyone's guess at this point.

Iroquoiss Pliskin wrote:
What of those ships that people do already have, like the above Kador Edition Omen -- will this qualify as a licence is the question!

Yes, CCP Seagull specifically addressed this - as long as you have either the ship or the BPC it will be convertible to a license.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

Iroquoiss Pliskin
9B30FF Labs
#12 - 2015-03-19 23:09:59 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:


Up until you inject it, it can be traded on the market. Once injected, it is permanently injected.

You can then hot swap the look of your ship at any time it looked like, even while in space. No need to be docked.

[quote]It was in the keynote speech.


The above question to this quote still stands - When the system goes live, does ownership of a Skin ship qualify as a licence - or are those ships going to become one-time Editions of some sort and thusly sky-rocket in price. Blink

Anyway,

http://www.twitch.tv/ccp/b/638754943

Presentation starts at 6:30:00.

Will report with coherent details back in a jiffy. Bear
Iroquoiss Pliskin
9B30FF Labs
#13 - 2015-03-19 23:12:13 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:

Iroquoiss Pliskin wrote:
What of those ships that people do already have, like the above Kador Edition Omen -- will this qualify as a licence is the question!

Yes, CCP Seagull specifically addressed this - as long as you have either the ship or the BPC it will be convertible to a license.



Cheerio. Smile

I just started watching the presentation, but if that's the case, then.... I'm a happy camper. Heh-heh. Pirate
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#14 - 2015-03-19 23:13:40 UTC
The skin transformation animation is pretty slick!

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#15 - 2015-03-20 00:43:19 UTC
They're skinning ships at Fanfest?? I knew things got a bit wild but....ew. That's horrible!

The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.

Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#16 - 2015-03-20 00:55:45 UTC
I'm amused by the apparent satisfaction with a skin, rather than new ships with stats and roles.
Iroquoiss Pliskin
9B30FF Labs
#17 - 2015-03-20 01:03:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Iroquoiss Pliskin
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
The skin transformation animation is pretty slick!


Yes. Smile

I can confirm what Arthur said about BPCs & their conversion when it all goes live.

However, following the Ship SKINs part on that Stream, there is a most excellent presentation of ambitious-proposed new structures for EVE Online. Structures, which in due time would replace the current POSes, that could become anchorable _ANYWHERE_ in the system, not just moons or planets!

This structures' project could revitalise EVE beyond wildest imagination: the true player content in our sandbox would be at hand with +positive+ health dynamics for the whole Universe.

I would like to enter any system and see 20 - that's twenty - 20 player-owned stations/offices/hubs all around the system with warpable beacons to them! Wouldn't be any different than the same number of POSes said system could contain, albeit all hidden behind moons.

Of course, whether to make these stations accessible to the Public is the owners' prerogative, but the fact that they would be there... Bring a tear to my eye. Big smile

P.S. I'd charge transaction tax on mine, though. Blink
Iroquoiss Pliskin
9B30FF Labs
#18 - 2015-03-20 01:05:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Iroquoiss Pliskin
Rain6637 wrote:
I'm amused by the apparent satisfaction with a skin, rather than new ships with stats and roles.


Grr Ishtar

To wit: Ship diversity is in a VERY good place - balancing is needed in some departments.

The only thing currently holding EVE back is the stagnant player-driven infrastructure, which, I sincerely hope, gives way to the vision of a new generation of player-owned, player-driven, player-administered, publicly-interactive, and not only from the other side of a POS shield, stations, hubs & centres, as envisioned in yesterday's presentation, and described in my previous post. Smile

Regards.
Memphis Baas
#19 - 2015-03-20 01:14:13 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
I'm amused by the apparent satisfaction with a skin, rather than new ships with stats and roles.


Shrug, people want to look at pretty. Otherwise you just have stats shooting other stats; back to the text-based era.

They'll probably make more money selling ship colors than from Valkyrie or other side games. The skins are character-bound, rather than account, so there's definitely multiple purchasing of the same skin.
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#20 - 2015-03-20 01:33:56 UTC
Nice, got all except one catalyst hull ready for transformation then :-)
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