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Dev blog: Fly Quafe – Fanfest Ship Skins with Game Time Bundles

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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#81 - 2015-03-18 08:17:06 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
What happened to the quafe Tshirts we normally got with the HD stream



Good question.
CCP Guard
C C P
C C P Alliance
#82 - 2015-03-18 09:40:08 UTC
Pak Narhoo wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
What happened to the quafe Tshirts we normally got with the HD stream



Good question.


The T-Shirts are exclusive for Fanfest attendees this year and not included in the subscription offer which instead has three ship skins instead of the one ship we've usually had in the past. Keeping the T-shirt exclusive is the same thing we did for EVE Vegas last year where we sold the Quafe Megathron with stream purchases.

CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer | @CCP_Guard

Yongtau Naskingar
Yongtau Naskingar Corporation
#83 - 2015-03-18 09:56:35 UTC
How will they be converted with the new SKINs system? Assuming that is still upcoming
Edward Olmops
Gunboat Commando
#84 - 2015-03-18 09:59:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Edward Olmops
Oraac Ensor wrote:

Nothing in my not inconsiderable knowledge of the English language indicates that "will be made available through other means" translates as "will be bundled with game time offers".

If you think it does then you're the moron.


You are ofc right, only they said it somewhere that the skins will come with game time special offers "around fanfest". (I think CCP Guard mentioned it in the o7 show?)
I knew it in advance and anyone who pays close attention to news would have been able to.

I checked my account in advance and saw it would expire in April. Check.
(otherwise I might just have eaten one PLEX instead of buying 12 months)

But I actually expected that the Quafe Domi might come with a 12 month offer (you have 3 ship skins, what would you do?).
Now, I usually do not buy any subscription for such long periods (gas, mobile phone, any other service), because it's always the same: after 5 or 9 months you realize you don't want the service and you find you have payed in advance and cannot cancel.
Therefore I demand of any service provider (including CCP) that their product is so good that I will always resub and they don't have to talk me into 12 or 24 months subscriptions payed in advance.

Solution?
I bought the Quafe Domi from the market. Everything can be bought with ISK.

Which is very good by the way (compared to other games). No one is forced to buy Aurum or the like and still can enjoy all the vanity items.
Darkblad
Doomheim
#85 - 2015-03-18 10:05:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Darkblad
Yongtau Naskingar wrote:
How will they be converted with the new SKINs system? Assuming that is still upcoming
There is still no announcement on how existing custom editions get converted. Last statement I found was here on January 25th:
CCP Terminus wrote:
The transition plan is still being worked on so nothing to announce there.

NPEISDRIP

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#86 - 2015-03-18 10:20:34 UTC
Look folks, the offer had to start at some cutoff point. Any point is going to be arbitrary and affect an equal number of people. If they made it retroactive for 30 days, the people who re-upped 31+ days ago will be just as pissy as those of you who missed the actual start date.

It sucks. So what. Get over it. Life goes on.

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Corvus Quinn
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#87 - 2015-03-18 10:37:16 UTC
A little notice about your plans to add these rewards to sub time would have been nice. I added two 6 month packages and a 3 month package about 3 weeks ago....
Elsa Einstein
Zero Point Galactic Holdings
#88 - 2015-03-18 12:41:31 UTC
...Aaand as per usual people connecting from Japan get screwed. The skin options aren't even available.

If you guys would give me a way to subscribe without going through a company (Nexon) that does nothing more than a bit of translation now and then and regularly manages to leak customers' credit card information - i.e. subscribe in the same way as everybody else is in the world is allowed to - I'd jump at it, but as it is I'm left paying cash for plex every month.
CCP Guard
C C P
C C P Alliance
#89 - 2015-03-18 15:19:34 UTC
Elsa Einstein wrote:
...Aaand as per usual people connecting from Japan get screwed. The skin options aren't even available.

If you guys would give me a way to subscribe without going through a company (Nexon) that does nothing more than a bit of translation now and then and regularly manages to leak customers' credit card information - i.e. subscribe in the same way as everybody else is in the world is allowed to - I'd jump at it, but as it is I'm left paying cash for plex every month.


There are some fringe issues like that around third party partners who sell game time or subscriptions on our behalf. In those cases, if you are buying corresponding game time during the offer duration, contact our Customer Support people and they'll help you out.

CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer | @CCP_Guard

CCP Guard
C C P
C C P Alliance
#90 - 2015-03-18 15:20:45 UTC
Corvus Quinn wrote:
A little notice about your plans to add these rewards to sub time would have been nice. I added two 6 month packages and a 3 month package about 3 weeks ago....


That is noted and we'll see if it makes sense to do notifications differently in the future.

CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer | @CCP_Guard

Makari Aeron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#91 - 2015-03-18 16:51:14 UTC
Aye. I feel this is kinda...unfair in some sense. I mean, I renew my subscriptions every summer as that's when I have enough money to do it then. I was quite disappointed that the Domi skin is for 12months only.

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Kniht
#92 - 2015-03-18 19:42:17 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
Corvus Quinn wrote:
A little notice about your plans to add these rewards to sub time would have been nice. I added two 6 month packages and a 3 month package about 3 weeks ago....


That is noted and we'll see if it makes sense to do notifications differently in the future.

Make this a permanent feature of Fanfest: bonuses for subscriptions, only available for two weeks.

Randomly including these bonuses will always **** off too many people. There has to be a cutoff somewhere, and, say, 17% of subscribers (or two months, assuming they were evenly spread out) are going to feel cheated regardless of where that cutoff falls. Even though they never lost anything, and I thoroughly enjoyed the salt earlier in this thread.

o/ fly crazy

Lance Fonulique
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#93 - 2015-03-18 22:34:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Lance Fonulique
so what i want to know is it any of the subscriptions to get the skins?

scratch that they dont show up till you log in
Elsa Einstein
Zero Point Galactic Holdings
#94 - 2015-03-18 23:17:53 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
Elsa Einstein wrote:
...Aaand as per usual people connecting from Japan get screwed. The skin options aren't even available.

If you guys would give me a way to subscribe without going through a company (Nexon) that does nothing more than a bit of translation now and then and regularly manages to leak customers' credit card information - i.e. subscribe in the same way as everybody else is in the world is allowed to - I'd jump at it, but as it is I'm left paying cash for plex every month.


There are some fringe issues like that around third party partners who sell game time or subscriptions on our behalf. In those cases, if you are buying corresponding game time during the offer duration, contact our Customer Support people and they'll help you out.


Thanks for the help, CCP Guard - I'll contact customer support. I do wish you guys had negotiated a better deal with Nexon that didn't *force* people in Japan who don't require Nexon's language services to go via them or use PLEX... (sigh).
Flamespar
WarRavens
#95 - 2015-03-19 03:02:58 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
Pak Narhoo wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
What happened to the quafe Tshirts we normally got with the HD stream



Good question.


The T-Shirts are exclusive for Fanfest attendees this year and not included in the subscription offer which instead has three ship skins instead of the one ship we've usually had in the past. Keeping the T-shirt exclusive is the same thing we did for EVE Vegas last year where we sold the Quafe Megathron with stream purchases.



Would have preferred that you had stuck to the tradition regarding the quafe t-shirts.

Regarding the quafe ships, I don't think they are a very good promotion, because not everyone is Gallente.
Zalifer Esepula
State War Academy
Caldari State
#96 - 2015-03-19 18:05:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Zalifer Esepula
This kind of sucks.

I have a sub until june, and while I do have plans to retain my subscription after that date, I don't have 130 euro to put towards some skins right at the moment.

I really wish this had just been similar to previous years. I had my 20 euro set aside for the HD stream, and now I find out that won't even get me a tristan skin.

I think it's kind of unfair to tie the fanfest rewards to such large sums of money, to be honest, especially since there was almost no warning. I'm willing to spend money on EVE. I have subbed, I have gotten the collectors edition, I got EVE source, but this is just so sudden that I don't have the cash ready :(

If you wanted to do this sort of route, I would have rathered a better than usual deal over fanfest for the same 20 euro as normal. This is now the first year since I started that I won't get the fanfest goodies :(
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#97 - 2015-03-19 18:12:37 UTC
CCP Phantom wrote:
Fanfest 2015 (from March 19 to 21) is almost here and with that comes a special offer as well: if you purchase extra game time now, you will additionally receive the Fanfest Quafe ship skins as gift!

Just go to your account management page, add game time and enjoy three free Quafe ship skins - simple as that!

More information about those ship skins and how the additional game time will pause your current billing plan is available in CCP Guard's latest dev blog Fly Quafe – Fanfest Ship Skins with Game Time Bundles.

Also don't forget to watch EVE TV - Fanfest 2015!


I guess you gotta make up the projected revenue shortfall from all the Capital Ship alt accounts getting unsubbed somehow.....

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!

Scarlett-Rose
Kador Defence Initiative
#98 - 2015-03-19 18:13:19 UTC
Subbed last night. Website timed out 4 times, informing me each time that card declined. Only I find actually that out of those 4 failures, it took my money 3 times. Even then it only added my subscription 2 times.

So, right now, I am waiting for £180 back.

Support ticket raised immediately but...... fanfest. So.... hope my bank can wait.... Ugh
Gal Desh
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#99 - 2015-03-19 18:16:13 UTC
I'm in the same scenario as several others that have commented. I purchased two 12 month subs for my accounts about 10 days ago, so it seems as though I'll miss out on this offer. Hard to purchase another 12 month sub to extend my play time out to two years because my accounts were expiring a week prior to this.

Seems like it should be retroactive and be something like January 1st through June 31st 2015 (6 months) for anyone purchasing a time bundle within that period. One time offer only per each active account so you couldn't get it multiple times for resubbing the same account.
Volcom Vondenhart
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#100 - 2015-03-19 20:38:08 UTC
My first post ever on any account!

Good thing I do yearly subs to see this kind of thing happen...

Bends over, waits for the pain...