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Adjust the Bowhead for use in more WHs
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E1ev1n
Big Sister Exploration
#21 - 2015-03-18 01:25:34 UTC
Look, all I'm saying is that this doesn't seem to have any real payoff other than more content for me to shoot at, sorry if you feel I am not liking your idea but I am trying to save you from losing a freighter to the first guy who is in an covops that finds you by yourself in that shattered hole.
Jayze Severasse
Divided by Zer0
#22 - 2015-03-18 01:30:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Jayze Severasse
E1ev1n wrote:
Look, all I'm saying is that this doesn't seem to have any real payoff other than more content for me to shoot at, sorry if you feel I am not liking your idea but I am trying to save you from losing a freighter to the first guy who is in an covops that finds you by yourself in that shattered hole.



Thanks for your concern, it would go straight to a custom bookmark, then it would hop bookmarks, it would have to be scanned down...the way I dscan when moving my lowly Mark V would apply the same. I gank people solo running my sights in my C2 and THEY never see a probe, I did however, scan down the entire system as I always do, just before they got there. I know binary Dscan, it don't work in a safe, and it is more than possible to avoid scans...that's all I'm saying ;)

P.S. please don't ever ignore core probes when in a WH xD
E1ev1n
Big Sister Exploration
#23 - 2015-03-18 01:32:34 UTC
Jayze Severasse wrote:

Recon the holes?
Need for multiple ships...stealthy recon and DPS? what?

Mobile scan inhibitor?

Sorry what? I already suggested an option that would make your fleet pretty "safe" running the sites, RR Domi Fleet means swiss army knife fleet, omni dps and built in logi plus cloak, pvp capability. More domi=more DPS for the sites as well as more logi, to be honest it is the way to run the shattered holes as it allow the most viable ships to get in and kill sites as well as being able to be pretty tanky, having a scan alt in the hole to keep entrances viable after moving the domis out in favor of gas harvesters and something to transport gas out with would be all you need in addition to the RR Domis. Simple.

Recent Bowhead cost

For this price you could fit 6 to 7 RR Domis up for running the sites, salvaging and Hole control. All the while not needing ammo and being able to cloak.
E1ev1n
Big Sister Exploration
#24 - 2015-03-18 01:36:21 UTC
Jayze Severasse wrote:
E1ev1n wrote:
Look, all I'm saying is that this doesn't seem to have any real payoff other than more content for me to shoot at, sorry if you feel I am not liking your idea but I am trying to save you from losing a freighter to the first guy who is in an covops that finds you by yourself in that shattered hole.



Thanks for your concern, it would go straight to a custom bookmark, then it would hop bookmarks, it would have to be scanned down...the way I dscan when moving my lowly Mark V would apply the same. I gank people solo running my sights in my C2 and THEY never see a probe, I did however, scan down the entire system as I always do, just before they got there. I know binary Dscan, it don't work in a safe, and it is more than possible to avoid scans...that's all I'm saying ;)

P.S. please don't ever ignore core probes when in a WH xD

Be Brave Be Bold, be ... uhm sorry I got nothing for this its just gonna die, sorry Sad
Jayze Severasse
Divided by Zer0
#25 - 2015-03-18 01:38:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Jayze Severasse
E1ev1n wrote:
Jayze Severasse wrote:

Recon the holes?
Need for multiple ships...stealthy recon and DPS? what?

Mobile scan inhibitor?

Sorry what? I already suggested an option that would make your fleet pretty "safe" running the sites, RR Domi Fleet means swiss army knife fleet, omni dps and built in logi plus cloak, pvp capability. More domi=more DPS for the sites as well as more logi, to be honest it is the way to run the shattered holes as it allow the most viable ships to get in and kill sites as well as being able to be pretty tanky, having a scan alt in the hole to keep entrances viable after moving the domis out in favor of gas harvesters and something to transport gas out with would be all you need in addition to the RR Domis. Simple.

Recent Bowhead cost

For this price you could fit 6 to 7 RR Domis up for running the sites, salvaging and Hole control. All the while not needing ammo and being able to cloak.



Pssst, here's my secret...I DO want to live IN the shattered, so DO others ;)
I am/have been working on contacts since I started playing...I want to establish enough bodies that people can come and go...held only by our activity.

If this doesn't happen, Orca fleets are still being assembled ;)
E1ev1n
Big Sister Exploration
#26 - 2015-03-18 01:45:40 UTC
Jayze Severasse wrote:
E1ev1n wrote:
Jayze Severasse wrote:

Recon the holes?
Need for multiple ships...stealthy recon and DPS? what?

Mobile scan inhibitor?

Sorry what? I already suggested an option that would make your fleet pretty "safe" running the sites, RR Domi Fleet means swiss army knife fleet, omni dps and built in logi plus cloak, pvp capability. More domi=more DPS for the sites as well as more logi, to be honest it is the way to run the shattered holes as it allow the most viable ships to get in and kill sites as well as being able to be pretty tanky, having a scan alt in the hole to keep entrances viable after moving the domis out in favor of gas harvesters and something to transport gas out with would be all you need in addition to the RR Domis. Simple.

Recent Bowhead cost

For this price you could fit 6 to 7 RR Domis up for running the sites, salvaging and Hole control. All the while not needing ammo and being able to cloak.



Pssst, here's my secret...I DO want to live IN the shattered, so DO others ;)
I am/have been working on contacts since I started playing...I want to establish enough bodies that people can come and go...held only by our activity.

If this doesn't happen, Orca fleets are still being assembled ;)

I don't care if you want to live in them or not, makes no difference to me, sounds to me you would be better off by far in a hole with a POS. It the "hey here we are" factor of a POS bothers you maybe its time to examine why that is rather than trying to use a mobile base meant for K-space in a Wormhole.
E1ev1n
Big Sister Exploration
#27 - 2015-03-18 02:43:28 UTC
https://zkillboard.com/kill/45207605/

An example of what I mean by not a great idea. This ship could defend itself. Welcome to wormholes.
HTC NecoSino
Suddenly Carebears
#28 - 2015-03-18 17:20:48 UTC
You don't need a bowhead to this in..

Find a C3 with a **** ton of anoms to run
Make a whole bunch of safe spots
Bring in a hauler and anchor a few cans. Put ammo, refits for your T3s, maybe a couple spare depots, etc in the cans.
Bring your T3s in, cloaky PvP fit.
When you're ready to run sites, have your site running T3 refit for PvE, your other should still be cloaky PvP fit and sit on an inbound hole or on grid with your PvE T3.
When you're done running sites, refit one T3 to salvagers, salvage the site and put loot in your can.

Rinse, repeat. Always log off safely away from your cans with your cloaky pvp fits.

Is it as efficient as putting up a tower? Yeah if you consider fuel costs and the cost of the tower.
Are you just as safe? Pretty much.
Plus, you may log on and find someone running a site in your hole. You're cloaky pvp fit and didn't come through a WH - kill whatever is running the sites. Then you get their loot to add to your haul :)

I've done this quite a few times, and killed a lot of site runners, including marauders, making it all the more worthwhile if your corp is in a downtime, lost their home, holidays, whatever.
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#29 - 2015-03-19 14:34:29 UTC
Jayze Severasse wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
No, I'm pretty sure they outright stated that they didn't think people would live there, as a design goal.



I would like to see a reference to that, as the rumor around the community is that they didn't want people in wormholes to begin with, yet here they are updating POS roles and doing WH revamps.

CCP wants them to be active...period. Nomadic operations in a WH is nothing like a POS. Do you believe they released these updates to have the general consensus in the community to be that they are a novelty and no attention should be given to them??

I reject your premise!


CCP are a fan of making things pretty useless for the masses over the years

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
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