Ships & Modules

Hi,
Im little bit of rookie, so,
Can you give me some advice to fit harbinger for lvl 3 missions for sisters of eve ?

Thank you very much.

something like this
[Harbinger, ratting copy]

Armor EM Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Salvager I

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I


now ive given the CCC's becuase u say u are a rookie. this fit should make u cap stable or near it. But cap stability is a thing for newbies. u should get used to working a cap booster if u can. that way u could swap some cap rechargers for tracking computers which will help with ur damage application. see kelons post above

Mwd is there so u can close on the rats fast or get out fast. Note npc rats dont scramble they disrupt so u can always use ur mwd.

no need for a dcu. the aim is to never enter structure. which u shouldnt really. imo a dcu is a pvp mod or antigank mod.

blap things from 20km with scorch and have fun.

edit - the armor harnder are missiioon specific btw.so change them as required

Fitting ships for pve is mostly straight forward.
T2 modules aren't necessary, T1 will do just fine .. fit according to your skills/wallet (and never forget it CAN go boom)

first read the description of the hull you'll be flying, and see what the xyz per level bonus' are
if it has 5 turret slots, fit 5 of the same weapon type as noted in the ship description
an afterburner can help (1mn is for small ships, 10mn is medium ships, 100mn is for large ships)

start out with using an active tank, it's easier to deal with than a passive/buffer tank (which requires knowing when it's time to leave, before it's time to leave)
an active tank is 1 local repair module and 2-3 active hardeners

Check eve survival for mission info .. ie damage done by the npc's you'll be facing, these will be the hardeners you need to use.

pad out any remaing mid/low slots with damage or tracking modules or utility (cap regen for example)

for rigging slots see the comment above

i used a slightly unconventional harbi fitting it was fun so and it was also abit ago


[Harbinger, mission]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Damage Control II
Tracking Enhancer II
Shield Power Relay II

10MN Afterburner II
Large Shield Extender II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II

Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
[empty high slot]

Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I

I strongly would recommend the first Beam fitting here. Blitz the missions wherever possible and hope for this special 10-part level 3 Storyline. Mucho ISK and mucho mucho mas standing! .
Despite this beam fitting is very easy to fly. Most times just stay where you are or move into a nice sniper positionen and then just beam everything away. Let your MTU tractor the wrecks if you feal it's worthwile for you.

Prophecy = 350-400dps into the resist hole, either with bad tracking or travel time, reducing the killspeed + 130dps from Lasers

Harbinger = 600pds on 20km + Fall Off + 103dps into the resist hole by drones (Valkyrie).

Don't know how you fly the Proph or what your fitting look like exactly, but the in your face alphas and dps by Beam Leasers should not be underestimated in missoins, especially when it comes to blapp one frig/destroyer after the other without being dependent on travel times of your drone. And the spawn distances in Angel Level 3 missions from my point of view justify a sniper fit.

Nice that you linking all T2 shizzle and lvl 5 skill fits here for new guy...
Kitty here gave excellent advices, just use the t2 fits as base and downgrade.
Missioning is NOT hard, just be careful and even new guy can do 3s and even 4s fine.

Actually for ppl with really low skills Gnosis is a way to go, IMHO. All bonuses are there as if you have racial BC skilled to V.

[Gnosis, Cheap low sp PVE Beams]
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Tracking Enhancer II

10MN Microwarpdrive II
Medium C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Medium Micro Jump Drive
Limited 'Anointed' EM Ward Field
Limited Thermic Dissipation Field I

Focused Modulated Medium Energy Beam I, Multifrequency M
Focused Modulated Medium Energy Beam I, Multifrequency M
Focused Modulated Medium Energy Beam I, Multifrequency M
Focused Modulated Medium Energy Beam I, Multifrequency M
Focused Modulated Medium Energy Beam I, Multifrequency M
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Heavy Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Imperial Navy Curator x2
Federation Navy Hobgoblin x5

If you do not have skills for T2 modules - use meta, but get those modules skills ASAP. You can change to 5 launchers / rail guns / arty if you find it suitable. IMHO launchers will serve you best here.

I would like to add that in the current situation with pulses and beams it makes the most sense to go for beams for a lvl 3 Harbinger. There'll always be very specific short range missions or NPC where pulses might be useful but most of those situations can be solved with better target selection, manual piloting, drones or proper use of midslots.

I would opt for a cap boosted fit, most people will tell you the exact opposite but it just makes more sense to use it any way. Making a cap boosted fit relies less on your cap related skills (which given your low SP will be problematic) and it allows you to use your freed up slots for tanking or dps (application). For an explanation on how cap management really works and to learn to not listen to boogieman stories about cap boosters go here.


Fitting wise something like this will work on low SP, just adapt the resists and drones based on the faction you'll be fighting that mission. Also realise that when not fighting em/thermal based NPC your applied dps will suffer/suck and your tank, even with the right resists, may struggle. MJD is your "get ouf of jail free" card: if you're overwhelmed and tackled you can use it to GTFO.

Chosen mods are mostly meta 4 but can be adapted to your skills/wallet. There's a few that are T2 because I consider those to be must haves once you start doing lvl 3 missions (but that's very much an opinion of course).

[Harbinger, LVL 3 low SP]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Prototype Armor Thermic Hardener I
Prototype Armor Thermic Hardener I
Prototype Armor EM Hardener I
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Medium Micro Jump Drive
Optical Tracking Computer I, Optimal Range Script
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

Focused Modulated Medium Energy Beam I, Multifrequency M
Focused Modulated Medium Energy Beam I, Multifrequency M
Focused Modulated Medium Energy Beam I, Multifrequency M
Focused Modulated Medium Energy Beam I, Multifrequency M
Focused Modulated Medium Energy Beam I, Multifrequency M
Focused Modulated Medium Energy Beam I, Multifrequency M
E50 Prototype Energy Vampire

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I

Hobgoblin I x5
Hammerhead I x5

And isnt that exaclty what new pilots do at missions before they get better? They do missions while training skills higher to do more dmg and so forth. Unless you want to sit one year in station or buy a char.