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Killrights are LAAAAAAAME
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Spaceman Jack
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-03-16 21:26:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Spaceman Jack
So I decided to try this criminal hunting thing and saw a lot of silly bastards in Jita/Amar with killrights in the half billion ISK range.

Clearly, bait/scam - as most are just sitting in empty industrials or freighters and have nothing but losses.

This is so lame for EVE - EVE should have the kind of balls that would make all killrights free. The only option for them should be: available or not available - but allowing such a high price for them is just asking for a system to fail.

Come on CCP. Let's do something more interesting here. Cap or remove the killrights payout that is clearly going to the corp-mates/alt. I can't imagine this type of baiting is what you had in mind when your top brains came up with a new criminal system to "encourage" PVP.

TL;DR - Make killrights free. There is honestly no reason to require a payout that gets exploited more than used.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#2 - 2015-03-16 21:34:20 UTC
Damn you CCP, make people stop setting their killright prices so high!





Grrrr other players! Grrrr you all to hell!

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#3 - 2015-03-16 21:35:36 UTC
Hahahahahagagahahahahah no.

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Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
#4 - 2015-03-16 21:40:49 UTC
A user-definable filter might be nice. If killright cost is greater than x, do not display killright icon.
Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2015-03-16 21:41:05 UTC
Free killrights for everybody!
Ka'Narlist
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#6 - 2015-03-16 21:55:15 UTC
Since when do I need some "kill right" to kill someone? Oh right high sec problems...
Serene Repose
#7 - 2015-03-16 22:01:59 UTC
"...it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing."

-Willie the Shake-

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Tzar Sinak
Mythic Heights
#8 - 2015-03-16 22:05:30 UTC
Unezka Turigahl wrote:
A user-definable filter might be nice. If killright cost is greater than x, do not display killright icon.


This I like.

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Paranoid Loyd
#9 - 2015-03-16 22:05:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Kill rights are great.

OP is Lame.

My favorite is when my victims don't realize they need to activate them before use and in their blind rage turn their safety to red and attack me in their shiny ships only to be Concorded and lose another ship. To boot, now I have killrights on them. Lol

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Paranoid Loyd
#10 - 2015-03-16 22:06:32 UTC
Unezka Turigahl wrote:
A user-definable filter might be nice. If killright cost is greater than x, do not display killright icon.

Paying attention is hard. Roll

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#11 - 2015-03-16 22:09:24 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Unezka Turigahl wrote:
A user-definable filter might be nice. If killright cost is greater than x, do not display killright icon.

Paying attention is hard. Roll


Paying attention leads to effort, effort leads to enjoyment, and enjoyment leads to the dark side.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
#12 - 2015-03-16 22:22:56 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Unezka Turigahl wrote:
A user-definable filter might be nice. If killright cost is greater than x, do not display killright icon.

Paying attention is hard. Roll


Useless noise is good. Roll

CCP should add 50 asteroids that don't give you anything per every 1 asteroid that does, and you need to click on each asteroid to determine if it's worth your time or not. Roll

CCP should add 10 decoy exploration sites per 1 genuine site. You don't know if its a decoy site until you warp in and you see a billboard that reads "TROLOLOLOLOLOLOL" Roll

Players should have to click on every market order individually to read the price because herp derp derp
Paranoid Loyd
#13 - 2015-03-16 22:25:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Unezka Turigahl wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Unezka Turigahl wrote:
A user-definable filter might be nice. If killright cost is greater than x, do not display killright icon.

Paying attention is hard. Roll


Useless noise is good. Roll
It's only useless until someone pays for it. Just because it's not useful to you doesn't mean it's useless.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Chewytowel Haklar
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2015-03-16 22:40:40 UTC
I forgot somehow that I had a kill right on me once. I sat outside the home station of a pirate corp called Son's of Plunder in my shiny cruiser, then wondered why I couldn't redock when they all undocked and targeted me.

Seems to be working alright. Bounties on the other hand seem pointless unless you catch the player in a big costly ship (loot the ship, get the kill, and some isk, profit).
Paranoid Loyd
#15 - 2015-03-16 22:42:41 UTC
Chewytowel Haklar wrote:
I forgot somehow that I had a kill right on me once. I sat outside the home station of a pirate corp called Son's of Plunder in my shiny cruiser, then wondered why I couldn't redock when they all undocked and targeted me.

Seems to be working alright. Bounties on the other hand seem pointless unless you catch the player in a big costly ship (loot the ship, get the kill, and some isk, profit).

Having a kill right activated against you doesn't stop you from docking. Only engaging them and getting yourself a weapons timer does.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
#16 - 2015-03-16 22:43:29 UTC
Inflated kill rights are not useless but an optional filter is warranted. We're at the point now where most killrights outside gates and stations are insurance fraud. Clicking these kill rights in order to see a value you have no interest in paying does not add anything to the game besides tedium.

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Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
#17 - 2015-03-16 22:43:32 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
It's only useless until someone pays for it. Just because it's not useful to you doesn't mean it's useless.


Yes, lets cater to AFK autopiloting alts trying to scam idiots, rather than throwing a bone out to people that the mechanic is actually intended for.
Paranoid Loyd
#18 - 2015-03-16 22:45:22 UTC
Unezka Turigahl wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
It's only useless until someone pays for it. Just because it's not useful to you doesn't mean it's useless.


Yes, lets cater to AFK autopiloting alts trying to scam idiots, rather than throwing a bone out to people that the mechanic is actually intended for.

The mechanics are intended for everyone, even alts trying to scam idiots. Why are you special?

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
BoBoZoBo
MGroup9
#19 - 2015-03-16 22:48:54 UTC  |  Edited by: BoBoZoBo
+1

I've seen the same thing I have to agree. They got rid of the old bounty system for this reason, and it is just the same lameness with the killrights.

Basically anyone who would be affected by having a killright just has a friend of them kill them and set a silly price so one one else bothers taking them out, making the whole idea of retribution outdated by the same thing that outdated it the last time

No idea how this was overlooked, but I don't bother looking for killrights to hunt anymore for this very reason.

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#20 - 2015-03-16 23:00:22 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Unezka Turigahl wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
It's only useless until someone pays for it. Just because it's not useful to you doesn't mean it's useless.


Yes, lets cater to AFK autopiloting alts trying to scam idiots, rather than throwing a bone out to people that the mechanic is actually intended for.

The mechanics are intended for everyone, even alts trying to scam idiots. Why are you special?

Because they got boned by a scamming AFK Autopilotting alt. Its subtle, but the reasoning is right there for all to see. Because of that boning, CCP should debone the system before the system decides to bone someone else.Ask not for whom the bone bones, it bones for thee! Clip the wings of the bone, so we can have boneless wings.. or wingless bones.. doesn't really matter, what matters is that the bone is a problem, and we should nip it in the bone, before the game is boned to its bones by the bone before being thrown like a bone. Its bad I tell you.. to the bone! If something is bad to the bone.. does that mean that the bones are bad too, or that everything but the bones are bad? Is that why some people don't have a bad bone in their body? What if the bones were bad, but everything else was good? Ive never heard anyone say 'that nice guy has got a body full of bad bones.' That would be weird.. and slightly inappropriate. If you say something inappropriate, HR might catch whiff of it, and then you might be truly boned.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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