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Going up against a larger ship?

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Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-03-12 19:31:15 UTC
Not worried about the fitting and weapons, as that can come later, but what ship would I need irrespective of race to go up against a pvp fitted Scorpion in 1 to 1 pvp, and stand a good chance of beating it?
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2015-03-12 19:34:45 UTC
something with drones
Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-03-12 19:37:57 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
something with drones


Like a Velator? Blink
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#4 - 2015-03-12 19:52:57 UTC
Adela Talvanen wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
something with drones


Like a Velator? Blink

think ishkur with halos (mid grade at least).

Click the link in my sig, go to losses and have a look at the frigates found therein.

tried and tested, that's the one you want.

get ontop of him asap ,
scram,
kill the drones first


I'll say that again

Kill the droes FIRST

Use warrior two's as they're fast and can catch his drones.

I actually have a rattlesnake kill with an ishkur but it was three, maybe four months ago so I'm not looking for the killmail (it wasn't a particular well fit rattlesnake anyway).
Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2015-03-12 19:59:45 UTC
Thanks for the ship tip/advice. I'll have to train up for it, now I know which way to go.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2015-03-12 20:02:51 UTC
Adela Talvanen wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
something with drones


Like a Velator? Blink



I still think it's possible
Paranoid Loyd
#7 - 2015-03-12 20:03:46 UTC
Have a read through this. It may not seem relevant but the conversation talks about how to use a BS to kill small ships. These are tactics you should be aware of if you go with Ralphs recommendation. (of which I concur)

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Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2015-03-12 20:24:44 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
Adela Talvanen wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
something with drones


Like a Velator? Blink



I still think it's possible



Ever the optimist
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#9 - 2015-03-12 20:41:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Bronson Hughes
The above posters have some great advice for frigates. Assuming you're willing to go above frigate-class, a dual-ECCM drone cruiser would likely be your best bet. I'd consider something like this:

[Vexor, Black Flag]

Damage Control II
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

10MN Afterburner II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Conjunctive Magnetometric ECCM Scanning Array I
Conjunctive Magnetometric ECCM Scanning Array I

Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I

Medium Egress Port Maximizer I
Medium Egress Port Maximizer I
Medium Egress Port Maximizer I


Drones to suit, follow the same general advice as the posters above: get in close and orbit, kill the Scorp's drones, then kill the Scorp. The ECCM will hopefully let you keep up tackle and neut pressure, but be prepared to bump them if they break tackle. A VNI would be far more effective due to the higher drone damage and higher base sensor strength, but the hull costs considerably more.


EDIT: Alternatively, an RLML Caracal loaded with FoF missiles may work as well, but I haven't used FoFs that often so I can't speak from experience.

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Domino Vyse
FeedingMachine
Good Sax
#10 - 2015-03-13 10:48:37 UTC
Does the Scorpion pilot know this fight is going to happen? If so he may check your killboard and double up on whichever racial ECM mod would be best, based on your commonly flown races.

I havent checked your kb so this might not apply, but switching to an unused race might benefit you in terms on unsuccessful ECM cycles.
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2015-03-16 18:09:47 UTC
How many people fly a battleship for 1v1 nowadays...??
DHB WildCat
Out of Focus
Odin's Call
#12 - 2015-03-16 22:15:01 UTC
succubus.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#13 - 2015-03-17 01:42:39 UTC
Tech 3 destroyers in sniper mode.

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