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Solo Suicide Gank (Gate camp) in HS Errors
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Paranoid Loyd
#21 - 2015-02-28 16:10:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
If the ship can't be alpha'd then the catalyst is superior to the thrasher for gate ganking. Check my kb for a proper gate catalyst fit. As mentioned, tank is required as the gate guns are what kill you not Concord.
Cruisers are used for catching non auto piloting ships at the in gate. If you are killing for profit they are well worth the investment as non auto-piloting indys tend to have a higher chance of having something worth the cost of a cruiser or even a BC. If you are killing just to kill I would probably stick to destroyers.

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Tisiphone Dira
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2015-02-28 18:31:54 UTC
Cat over thrasher for interceptors even?

There once was a ganker named tisi

A stunningly beautiful missy

To gank a gross miner

There is nothing finer, cept when they get all pissy
Paranoid Loyd
#23 - 2015-02-28 18:44:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
No in that case you need to rely on the range of the arty as they will run out of your range in a cat.

That's a nice exception to point out, the reason I said cat is superior if you can't alpha the target is comparing your setup to mine with max skills and SH/P-603&SS-603 implants the thrasher's volley is 1130, while the cat's is 807. The thrasher will do 2-3 volleys while the cat will do 5-6.

So the potential damage is 2260/3390 for the thrasher and 4035/4842 for the cat.

As you pointed out there are exceptions depending on the target. If range and speed become larger factors than damage, Thrasher is superior.

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Steppa Musana
Doomheim
#24 - 2015-02-28 21:11:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Steppa Musana
Two gate guns do 350 dps (EM 16%, Explosive 16%, Kinetic 28%, Thermal 28%). So count the guns on gate, divide by 2, multiply by 350, and divide your tank by that to get how much time you last on grid. Then divide that by your cycle time and add 1. Remove the decimals and multiply by your alpha. That's your total damage, and the best way to compare fits for this job.
Mrs Whoops
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2015-03-16 01:14:51 UTC
Wow, a lot of juicy information here, very good reading..
Sorry for not getting back to yall, real life been busy

I think i have to stop my skill training in minmatar ships and small artillery, so i can start from scratch on gallente ships and hybrid weapons systems.. It seems what most people agrees on.

For now i'll stick with with the thrasher jumping smaller haulers, have enough isk for testing the durability for different builds, so maybe i'll come up with a guide some day on ganking gates in thrashers, as someone pointed out, the guides out there is poor and full with wrong information.

I got answer on all my question so thanks to all, good thread.

Anyone wanna team up, just mail me in game.

For everyone else, look out for my name in local Big smile
Desudes
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2015-03-16 01:23:37 UTC
Dunno if anyone pointed it out cause im too lazy to read but you can get 30-40k ehp tanks with all passive t2 mods in t1 haulers. Probably ran into someone that actually tanked their ship.

Excuse me, but what the f*ck are you desu?
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#27 - 2015-03-16 19:14:39 UTC
Desudes wrote:
Dunno if anyone pointed it out cause im too lazy to read but you can get 30-40k ehp tanks with all passive t2 mods in t1 haulers. Probably ran into someone that actually tanked their ship.
While true enough, a large percentage of people still fit for cargo over tank, the same way that many miners fit for yield over tank.

The people who tank their T1 haulers are generally the ones that are aware of gankers and not autopiloting in the first place.

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