EVE General Discussion

Getting rid of NPC corps is not going to help CCP retain players.

A well thought out and subjective analysis total supported by faster Concord Response times, increased wardec fees, removal of Boomerang and Brick Tank Procurer.

Maybe someone from CCP can interject a better answer than me.

Except in typical CCP fashion the logic is all wrong.

Players who are unsuited to EVE and will never really enjoy it tend to hang around an NPC corp till they finally quit.

Forcing them to move to a Player Corp will not miraculously transform them into EVE fans - you will be just be lumbering Player corps with a batch of uncommitted whiny players who will eventually quit anyway becasue the game does not actually suit them.

Forcing isn't the word I would use. That doesn't seem like a very engaging way to treat people.

Giving people who are interested in the game, reasons to move outside NPC Corps to player corps isn't a bad thing in my view. Understanding why they stay in NPC Corps is a good place to start if that is what CCP hope to achieve.

CONCORD is the #1 farmer of kills and tears in hisec.

Edit: Dat killboard efficiency. 99.5% for ISK, 99.9% all else. 2.1 trillion ISK of assets destroyed.

So is almost everything else in the game.

If you play the game correctly, you will almost never die in highsec. (barring someone really dedicated going after you with smartbombs on a gate, or some such)

So yeah, condemn just gankers for playing the game well, hypocrite.

Unless said person is a ganker, in which case they're just magically immune according to you, right?

Trip over yourself more.

Look at Wardec corps behaviour.
If someone fights back and they get any kills at all, even cheap T1 cruiser & frigate kills, they will extend the wardec even longer.
This sort of PLAYER behaviour is what creates Wardec evasion. At best just staying docked is the right answer 99% of the time.
Because any form of interaction with someone wardeccing you simply opens you up to more wardecs.

As long as players behave that way, people won't be interested in taking part in Wardecs.

Also as long as there is no real benefit to a high sec corp people won't join high sec corps.
And if you push the NPC tax higher, people will just make more 1 man corps, which they will then recycle when wardecced.
If you push the NPC tax higher AND remove the ability to evade wardecs, people will just quit rather than be griefed like the current cycle creates.

So there is no simple bandaid fix or jesus solution. High sec needs to build over time more engaging corp play which doesn't simply get crushed by the null groups like POCO installation did initially.

That wouldn't be Wardeccing corp, that does this. A Wardec corp wardecs for Hisec fun. They don't take Contracts with other players. So letting the dec drop after losing a fight is beneficial.

However a Mercenary corp, will extend the dec, but the War Report, is a publicly displayed tool for customers to view how effective the Mercenary is. So by extending the wardec until they have 'won' is Damage Control.

Also the Mercenary that is extending the dec may be contracted for certain time frame. So there's a lot more happening behind the curtain then what you are implying. Generally, the reason why decs are long, is because, there are paid for a certain amount of time. Like Two months.



Like I said before, Extended decs are paid by a contractor. So blame the Corps paying the Mercenary. That and it could be that the corp is providing 'gud fites' and the dec is extended because people are having fun.



NPC don't need to more nerfs, your right. High-sec Corps need more buffs. However Wardeccing is not the actually cause for people quiting. I've been in the Mercenary trade for two years. When people quit it's not the Wardeccer that is the main reason. It's because a High-sec corp, does not provide long term goals, nor does it provide real content. The only real content driven Highsec corps are Mercenary Corps. You don't generate content running lvl 4 missions. You don't generate content running a mining corp. You can have content with a Industrialist corp but for a Highsec only Indy corp. It's rather hard so I'm told.



I can agree that High-sec needs a change, I can agree that Wardecs need fixxed. However it's not as simple as Fix Wardecs, people are now staying longer. High-sec isn't meant to be safe. People stay in NPC corps because it is safer then a player corp. If you develop away to keep the dangers of high-sec the same, while give player corps in high-sec REAL benifits, and real control. Then things may change. But it's not a Fix Wardecs=Better Highsec,

Like I said, I'm all for a change in Wardecs. However I am not for making High-sec a safer brighter place. EVE was built on the idea of "I can do anything, Even the bad things" Not "I can do anything as long as the sec status says so"


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With regards, What work is there in avoid Wardecs and mechanic in the game, by Rolling Corp or staying in a NPC corp?

I remember this same discussion maybe 9 years ago...
good example of hitting dead farm animal.

"Why do people stay in npc corp?"
It doesn't matter. Pay them to play then you can say how.

There is only one corporation that matter here. It is in Iceland..

Personal opinion of nature of Eve and how should be is meaningless. There is no risk, no safety, no danger, no morality.. it is a game.. you are not brave. it is as dangerous as playing with toy truck with recurring monthly subscription.

Subscription and player statistics dictate direction of Eve, not some dark game mythology. The state of Eve today.. npc corp, player corp numbers, professions, in-game population demographics and locations.. all of this reflects direction people want and will pay for.. that really does say more than miniscule percentage of player in forums.

If people did not want what they have they would not be here.

I do not pay for things I do not want.

Business is business.