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Level 4 Mission Running Question

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Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#41 - 2015-03-15 20:57:48 UTC
Caleidascope wrote:
Gregor Parud wrote:
Caleidascope wrote:
Raven.

Read this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=411035

LMJD Raven with Auto Targeting missiles is pretty easy to fit and to fly. You will be doing l4 like a pro in no time.


What you mean to say is "is low dps and tends to 3waste cruise ammo on frigates because they're the closest and as such it's pretty terrible to fly"

auto targeting cruise + light scout drones kill frigates pretty quick.

It seems to me that OP is not a mission running pro nor a bittervet. The OP now has choices, do a cheap ship cheap fit and do L4 succesfully, or do billion isk ship and fit and do L4 succesfully. The end result is the same. And nobody is stopping OP from moving on to billion isk ship and fit later. Hek, just training skills for billion isk ship and fit will likely force OP to use cheap ship cheap fit.



No, you're just projecting your own low effort. The choices you are giving (FoF raven or super duper ship) are a fallacy: using a raven does not imply using FoF, in fact it doesn't even make much sense to do so in most cases unless you want to play afk, but the OP never stated such a thing.

Thus: a Raven is fine, normal cruise make the most sense but FoF are an option if you want to afk it (on an alt).
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2015-03-15 21:28:01 UTC
Eldhih wrote:
As a returning player, I am slowly relearning the game and have a question for you mission runners in high sec. Aside from the Navy Drake, what is the next step up for soloing level 4 missions? That is, what ship outperforms a Drake in survivability and firepower?


Navy drake actually has less tank than the vanilla one and does even less damage.

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Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2015-03-15 23:24:34 UTC
Gregor Parud wrote:
Caleidascope wrote:
Gregor Parud wrote:
Caleidascope wrote:
Raven.

Read this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=411035

LMJD Raven with Auto Targeting missiles is pretty easy to fit and to fly. You will be doing l4 like a pro in no time.


What you mean to say is "is low dps and tends to 3waste cruise ammo on frigates because they're the closest and as such it's pretty terrible to fly"

auto targeting cruise + light scout drones kill frigates pretty quick.

It seems to me that OP is not a mission running pro nor a bittervet. The OP now has choices, do a cheap ship cheap fit and do L4 succesfully, or do billion isk ship and fit and do L4 succesfully. The end result is the same. And nobody is stopping OP from moving on to billion isk ship and fit later. Hek, just training skills for billion isk ship and fit will likely force OP to use cheap ship cheap fit.



No, you're just projecting your own low effort. The choices you are giving (FoF raven or super duper ship) are a fallacy: using a raven does not imply using FoF, in fact it doesn't even make much sense to do so in most cases unless you want to play afk, but the OP never stated such a thing.

Thus: a Raven is fine, normal cruise make the most sense but FoF are an option if you want to afk it (on an alt).

You did not read the second page: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5562853#post5562853

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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2015-03-16 00:52:36 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
120ish dps difference in missile dps between standard missile boat and rattlesnake. Plus rattlesnake has 700ish drone dps. however rattlesnake missiles are slow and more prone to getting hit by defenders. and the damage delay is greater so you are more prone to wasting volleys. and sentry drones don't move, where heavies have travel time, so you aren't always applying drone dps either.

it is a pretty cool ship but I find it annoying to fly, and that is on an alt with perfect missile skills and 5% implants.


The trick with a Rattlesnake is move the cruise to the next battleship when the current target is at about half armor and finish them off with sentries.

Fairly intensive workload but efficient.
Eldhih
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#45 - 2015-03-16 08:59:15 UTC
How do you folks with Tengu's deal with frigates that orbit at close range and point you?
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#46 - 2015-03-16 09:59:24 UTC
Eldhih wrote:
How do you folks with Tengu's deal with frigates that orbit at close range and point you?

I usually just switch to Precision or hit them with a stasis web. I also utilize a MWD instead of an afterburner which gives me the ability to pull range if need be. Also, rigors, rigors and rigors (in that order) - makes a huge difference against frigates.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Dominus Immortalus
Doomheim
#47 - 2015-04-01 21:51:45 UTC
Hi,

I'm looking for a ship that can run these missions with some potential AFKers waking up and needing me. With money and skills being no worry, which of these would you pick?

If it's an option, I'd like to not deal with drones, and I want to be able to kill frigs with as much ease as possible.

Does this ship even exist?

Thanks a lot!
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#48 - 2015-04-02 00:37:35 UTC
Dominus Immortalus wrote:
I'm looking for a ship that can run these missions with some potential AFKers waking up and needing me. With money and skills being no worry, which of these would you pick?

Golem with Rigors can pretty much tank anything. With auto-targeting missiles it'll run through anything, just take a bit longer as opposed to manually targeting and shooting things. Rapid heavy missile launchers are another option.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#49 - 2015-04-02 14:35:37 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Dominus Immortalus wrote:
I'm looking for a ship that can run these missions with some potential AFKers waking up and needing me. With money and skills being no worry, which of these would you pick?

Golem with Rigors can pretty much tank anything. With auto-targeting missiles it'll run through anything, just take a bit longer as opposed to manually targeting and shooting things. Rapid heavy missile launchers are another option.


Only until you DC.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#50 - 2015-04-03 04:34:24 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
Only until you DC.

Only if you're in Bastion mode.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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