Player Features and Ideas Discussion

not empty quoting

to add to that jamming a rook with a griffin gives me the biggest damn smile


(to all out there i do not recommend trying this as rooks have stupid high sensor strength :P)

nor is this. I understood this to be the Features & Ideas DISCUSSION forum. Not the Shout Down Others Without Adding Meaningfully to the Discussion forum. If it is your opinion that there is nothing wrong with ECM and it doesn't need changing then what are you doing in a thread discussing changes to ECM? Your idle nay-saying is impossible to engage with.

yes this is a discussion your job is to propose an argument.


our job is to point out why it would not be good/needed in the game.

you are than to either amend your argument or defend it .



and here one of the main points against your argument is





so yes in a way our job is to shoot down and find every little hole with an idea so that only good ones get pushed through

and your idea is

A) unneeded

B) worse than what is already in game

C) just an annoying mess for both parties

Hey Crow, sorry I'm late, was trying to sell a toon. Anyway we are back on ECM again? Alright I have read the OP, and to me it seems like he wants to changed ECM to either not be able to jam a ship that has no systems active or have ECM act more as a hacking device that completely debilitates a ships. Both sound bad. One makes ECM really useless and the other makes it very OP. ECM that shuts off active remote and local modules including tanking ones that have absolutely no connection to a ships targeting system. Let me start off by reaffirming that everyone said earlier, ECM isn't broken so don't fix it. I fly a Widow quite often. I know what I can jam and what I can't and when to engage. If the situation looks unfavorable, I keep my cloak and wait for an opportunity to apply jams based upon the FCs requirements. ECM boats are for soloing. They are fleet ships to be used strategically.

Welcome - with reservations, as you plainly have allegiances.
This is a deliberately extreme reading of my suggestions...
Again, I have not gone in to enough detail to allow such a far reaching assumption. I don't see that a form of Ewar (being a reimagined ECM) that provides windows of opportunity for agressors by resetting active modules is particularly overpowered. It could be balanced any number of ways eg. only affecting targeted active modules... If you're determined to have no imagination then I can't very well discuss my idea with you.

Please don't, it's terribly uninteresting. I'm not sure who needs you to parrot other people but it isn't me.

They are currently. I don't contest that ECM works after a fashion: I am just proposing changes to it. Simply pointing out the status quo gets us nowhere.

Alright so you say you want ECM to deactivate active targeting modules. As far as I know when you jam a ship, their targetting modules deactivate anyway because they don't have a target ship locked. So if that is what you meant be deactivating active remote modules, then it already does that. ECM is good where it is at and is hands down my favorite strategy. No need to try and reinvent the wheel. A possibly good proposal for ECM would be to allow them to hamper drone control either by reducing drone control range or by disconnecting the target ship from their drones by a variable amount depending on jam strength. Or an independent module or script to allow drone jams to be applied to the drone host ship.

If op wants an electronic attack system that makes activated mods not work and makes players pay more attention to there activated mods, he should try out nuets.