EVE General Discussion

There's more than 1 person that wants to build an empire.

besides one person. I mean how would this one person even be able to compete with already dominant powers. All the small powers are just that. Small. I have not heard of a small power that became a conquerer of null sec. An example would be nice, not really familiar with null sec history.

an example?

Goonswarm.

Through espionage, mass recruitment, and a little luck, they beat Band of Brothers, which in early EVE was the alliance that basically ruled all of the nullsec that matters, they then since became the new BoB, ruling over almost all of nullsec.


the thing is, as long as leadership si strong, and players stay organized/active, why should you expect to be able to take space/power from the alliances? if they have more resources than you, more members than you, and better organization than you, what can you do so well that justifies you being handed over SOV?

this is why small powers right now are small, most of them would rather leech and live off existing infrastructure and supply lines maintained by the big empires, so instead of waiting for a weakness to form in a large alliance, and exploiting it to win a war, they become dependent on the alliances and any weakness of the larger alliance becomes a weakness of the smaller, so they never get a chance to overthrow their predecessor.

in other words, its laziness and a lack of strong leadership that has prevented any new groups from forming

Actually Brave were in the right place at the right time (Catch area when the russians collapsed) and cozied up to the right people. They didnt 'take' any area it was handed to them and is still guarded to this day by other people. Why do you think PL is in Stain and has been in that area for a year.

Being farmed by PL, NC, N3, whoever is a tax for being given that region.

Divide et impera!

then why do i see goons holding only 2 regions http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/verite/influence.png
yes, 3 if you include renters...
its the east where most of the null is, there are more regions and bigger...

This is a question commonly studied in political science. For example, "Why do even single party or totalitarian states develop internal factions?"

Anywhere that we see an entity become dominant in politics for any length of time, we tend to see that entity develop its own internal divisions. The LDP of Japan was consistently elected for over four decades until the late 20th century. In that time, rather than have opposition parties become major power brokers, we instead observed factions within the LDP become the main bargaining entities.

In general, the fewer people involved in making decisions, the less opportunistic decision making occurs, and the less marginal efficiency is exploited. A different set of inefficiencies occur in systems that maximize solely decisions making at margins. Consequently, some dynamic equilibrium tends to emerge.

There are more than two big Alliances in the game.

Maybe you meant Coalitions, but that's not the subject of this thread. Look at the sov map. There are quite a few sov holding Alliances.

Gaining a foothold: profitability is low, effort is massive and burnouts is probable.

Preventing someone from gaining a foothold: ping for a full fleet of Tengus and another fleet of caps, fun factor high, low effort, rarely any burnouts as this doesn't happen daily.