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Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#121 - 2011-12-23 08:10:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Kuronaga
Darren Corley wrote:


Tippia never claimed that. YOU claimed they suck and would leave. No one said they would. Burden of proof lies with you, sir.


Tippia claimed to understand how Dust mechanics would work in relation to items being destroyed/not being destroyed, as he likes saying "Just like Dust" in relation to BF3 items (which are not destroyed permanently).

Ergo, he has made an assumption with no evidence. He then went on to criticize me for making an "assumption" about the mechanics when he had no evidence himself. The reality was I had more evidence to back up my claim via the way things work in eve and the fact they have interconnected economies, and he had zero.

What, the burden lies with me alone? F that, you guys say stuff you get to back it up too. Play by your own damn rules.

Quote:
That very well maybe, doesn't change the fact that your OP is stupid and this example of your stupidity will exist on the internet forever.


Indeed, I will forever be immortal for my rants, but you sir, you will eventually die. Know this, and weep.
Darren Corley
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#122 - 2011-12-23 08:21:15 UTC
Kuronaga wrote:
Darren Corley wrote:


Tippia never claimed that. YOU claimed they suck and would leave. No one said they would. Burden of proof lies with you, sir.


Tippia claimed to understand how Dust mechanics would work in relation to items being destroyed/not being destroyed, as he likes saying "Just like Dust" in relation to BF3 items (which are not destroyed permanently).

Ergo, he has made an assumption with no evidence. He then went on to criticize me for making an "assumption" about the mechanics when he had no evidence himself. The reality was I had more evidence to back up my claim via the way things work in eve and the fact they have interconnected economies, and he had zero.

What, the burden lies with me alone? F that, you guys say stuff you get to back it up too. Play by your own damn rules.

Quote:
That very well maybe, doesn't change the fact that your OP is stupid and this example of your stupidity will exist on the internet forever.


Indeed, I will forever be immortal for my rants, but you sir, you will eventually die. Know this, and weep.


Tippia still never claimed to, you can see this with the words used. Tippia even said that since the games not out there's plenty we do not know yet. YOU still claim the target audience "sucks and will leave". Burden of Proof has been around for a LONG time, it is not my rule, but a rule used by humanity. You make a claim, you back it up. Conjecture and Assumptions will get you nowhere without proof.
First Lieutenant Dan
Doomheim
#123 - 2011-12-23 08:22:34 UTC
Assumptions go places in Iraq.
Keno Skir
#124 - 2011-12-23 08:23:38 UTC
Quick drop in to mention that after 7 pages of this bullcr*p, OP needs to shut the hell up for 30 seconds and listen to whats being said to him by almost everyone.

By allowing keyboard and mouse by choice, the shiny trademark shaped and easily recognisable smooth fancy controllers would be obsolete both in function and in form. Their function is as a game controller and would be totally non-competative against those with keyboards and high sensitivity twitch mice. Their form is as a recognisable trademark of the company itself, and allows the observer to know exactly what console someone is playing even without seeing it.

Most console FPS game developers i'm sure feel it's important to keep people on as level a playing field as possible, and that is the main reason behind limiting players to one kind of input device.

I feel that these points have been clearly demonstrated in a number of different ways throughout the many pages of this text by more people than you can shake a Catalyst at, and so i only re-post the info because OP does not seem to be "getting it".

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Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#125 - 2011-12-23 08:29:48 UTC
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Tippia still never claimed to, you can see this with the words used. Tippia even said that since the games not out there's plenty we do not know yet..


Really? Ok so, with this...

Kuronaga wrote:
Battlefield 3 also doesn't require you pay 5 dollars to CCP every time you lose little flying command center.


Tippia wrote:
So, just like Dust then.


Sounds like an (obviously broad) assumption on my part, and it also sounds like an assumption on his part.

But if you wanna think of something witty to say before you guys attempt to change the subject to something more favorable again, ill give you time...
Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#126 - 2011-12-23 08:39:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Kuronaga
Keno Skir wrote:
Quick drop in to mention that after 7 pages of this bullcr*p, OP needs to shut the hell up for 30 seconds and listen to whats being said to him by almost everyone.

By allowing keyboard and mouse by choice, the shiny trademark shaped and easily recognisable smooth fancy controllers would be obsolete both in function and in form. Their function is as a game controller and would be totally non-competative against those with keyboards and high sensitivity twitch mice. Their form is as a recognisable trademark of the company itself, and allows the observer to know exactly what console someone is playing even without seeing it.

Most console FPS game developers i'm sure feel it's important to keep people on as level a playing field as possible, and that is the main reason behind limiting players to one kind of input device.

I feel that these points have been clearly demonstrated in a number of different ways throughout the many pages of this text by more people than you can shake a Catalyst at, and so i only re-post the info because OP does not seem to be "getting it".


I am "getting it".

I'm also getting that its a pussy way to develop games. Plenty of other competitive genres use alternate control devices, some very much more advantageous than a stock controller. I also provided examples of those genre's growing in number, so as to dissuade the idea that its detrimental to it. And all of these are console examples.

Oh hey, look, it's the ENTIRE THREAD all over again.

But hey, let's throw another log onto the fire since it's so fun.

They did say that while no PC version is planned currently, it might still be done in the future. So if that ever happens, PS3 users will be screwed anyway. Yeehaw.
Darren Corley
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#127 - 2011-12-23 09:32:58 UTC
Kuronaga wrote:
Quote:
Tippia still never claimed to, you can see this with the words used. Tippia even said that since the games not out there's plenty we do not know yet..


Really? Ok so, with this...

Kuronaga wrote:
Battlefield 3 also doesn't require you pay 5 dollars to CCP every time you lose little flying command center.


Tippia wrote:
So, just like Dust then.


Sounds like an (obviously broad) assumption on my part, and it also sounds like an assumption on his part.

But if you wanna think of something witty to say before you guys attempt to change the subject to something more favorable again, ill give you time...


Actually, there's information out there saying that people will be able to play without paying a dime beyond the initial $20 you pay for the game. So Tippia is right, Dust does not require you to do so.
Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#128 - 2011-12-23 09:40:54 UTC
Kuronaga wrote:
Darren Corley wrote:


Tippia never claimed that. YOU claimed they suck and would leave. No one said they would. Burden of proof lies with you, sir.


Tippia claimed to understand how Dust mechanics would work in relation to items being destroyed/not being destroyed, as he likes saying "Just like Dust" in relation to BF3 items (which are not destroyed permanently).

Ergo, he has made an assumption with no evidence. He then went on to criticize me for making an "assumption" about the mechanics when he had no evidence himself. The reality was I had more evidence to back up my claim via the way things work in eve and the fact they have interconnected economies, and he had zero.

What, the burden lies with me alone? F that, you guys say stuff you get to back it up too. Play by your own damn rules.

Quote:
That very well maybe, doesn't change the fact that your OP is stupid and this example of your stupidity will exist on the internet forever.


Indeed, I will forever be immortal for my rants, but you sir, you will eventually die. Know this, and weep.


No your stupidity will be immortal, you will still die. Know this, and derp.

By the way, since we're already talking, do you want to buy a rifter? I've got the cheapest rifters in Metropolis. If you can find a cheaper rifter, buy it!
CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#129 - 2011-12-23 09:50:13 UTC
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