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Best way of making ISK??

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BlackD3ath Spanski
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-03-13 06:02:19 UTC  |  Edited by: BlackD3ath Spanski
woops
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2015-03-13 07:00:01 UTC
Word of advice:
If you AFK mine with a retriever (especially after having announced it), you will have it blown up. Probably long before it's paid itself off

Mining is terrible ISK. If you enjoy mining, go ahead. If you don't, then remove all mining-related skills from your skill queue now. You are not required to mine ever.

Missions aren't bad. Sure, level 2 is low ISK, but it's possibly better than mining is. Also try exploration. If you haven't done the Sisters of EVE epic arc, run that.
If you want some PVP in your ISK-making, look at factional warfare.
If you like spreadsheets and numbers, try station trading.

What are your goals for the game? Lowsec, small gang PVP? Nullsec fleets? Other?
BlackD3ath Spanski
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2015-03-13 07:06:38 UTC
I would never announce it in-game! so i hope that helps, and i'm always in high-sec so I don't think i have to worry right?
i'm just mining plagioclase anyway..

I'm only mining in the tremendous amounts of time its going to take to use my brutix armor tanking build just to do level 3 MAYBE 4 missions if its possible?

thats the only route i see right now, where is the huge amount of isk people talk about in the game you know, i dont really have a goal, whatever makes me rich would be fun, so quickest way to that would be great.

and yeah i did the EVE arc and picked gallente for it etc.

Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2015-03-13 07:14:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Elena Thiesant
BlackD3ath Spanski wrote:
I would never announce it in-game!


You just did! (or do you think that these forums are completely separate from the game and that no one here actually plays EVE?)

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i'm always in high-sec so I don't think i have to worry right?


Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
Google: suicide ganking

Seriously, by saying you plan to AFK mine, I suspect somewhere around 10 people have already put you on a watch list with a plan to blow your retriever up

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I'm only mining in the tremendous amounts of time


If you don't enjoy mining, then STOP #$#%%^^ mining! You will hate it, you will come to hate the game (especially after several retrievers blow up) and you will quit

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thats the only route i see right now, where is the huge amount of isk people talk about in the game you know


Mining and 'huge amount of ISK' don't belong in the same sentence. Mining is very, very, very low income, especially with low skills. Seriously, just stop now and take the skills out of your skill queue (unless you actually do enjoy mining, which is not the impression I get)

Highsec exploration is probably better, even though it's random. Lowsec exploration is almost certainly better. Almost anything in fact is better than mining (especially if you keep getting retrievers ganked)

As for a goal, lots of ISK isn't really a long-term goal. What do you plan to do with that ISK?
Commander Cute
Capsuleer Retirement Home
#5 - 2015-03-13 07:22:42 UTC
BlackD3ath Spanski wrote:
I would never announce it in-game! so i hope that helps, and i'm always in high-sec so I don't think i have to worry right?
i'm just mining plagioclase anyway..

Catalyst soon coming to a system near you.
BlackD3ath Spanski
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2015-03-13 07:25:14 UTC
how do i erase this thread haha
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2015-03-13 07:29:10 UTC
You don't. *evil grin*
You can report it (the flag button to the right of the date in the message header) and ask the mod to lock it, but that's it.

One of the principles of EVE: Actions have consequences

My advice about not mining isn't because of the ganking (I still mine from time to time), it's because it can be incredibly boring and if you don't enjoy some process of watching a ship chew through asteroids it's likely to make you want to (or actually do) quit the game.

There's a large diagram showing piles of options on what to do in EVE. Find something you enjoy and ISK will follow from there. It's a game, it's meant to be fun, not a boring grind.
BlackD3ath Spanski
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2015-03-13 07:31:12 UTC  |  Edited by: BlackD3ath Spanski
and besides, how do people knowing my name make them find me in game?.. out of all the systems there is... like what

and why would it be worth it to blow up a retriever.. mining plagio in high sec, that just seems silly, the ship wreckage wouldnt be worth much would it? AND the ore is basic and useless.. or are people just bored
besides, every belt u go to in high sec there is a retriever there all the time... rather annoying that i would even be worried

also, great forums where they don't have an erase button...

That's almost as bad as salvage drones not spreading out to different targets automatically and all just going for the 1 ship closest at a time.
Commander Cute
Capsuleer Retirement Home
#9 - 2015-03-13 07:33:22 UTC
BlackD3ath Spanski wrote:
and besides, how do people knowing my name make them find me in game?.. out of all the systems there is... like what

There is such a thing as locator agents. I have also forwarded this thread to a fellow CODE. agent and you should have received a mail from him by now.

Good day.
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-03-13 07:46:12 UTC
BlackD3ath Spanski wrote:
and besides, how do people knowing my name make them find me in game?.. out of all the systems there is... like what


The system you are currently in (at the time I write this post) starts with the letter G and you are docked at a station orbiting planet 1 of that system.

It is absolutely trivial to locate people in this game.

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or are people just bored


Yup, it's not about value. It's because they can. And it's not about whether there's a retriever, it's about mining AFK. There are groups that dislike AFK play. If you're paying attention to your mining barge, you'll see people coming, you have plenty of time to react and dock or change system, etc
If you have the game minimised, or are playing something else, or are out of the room, you won't see it coming.

EVE is a PVP game. Yes, there are PVE aspects to it, but at it's heart it's a PVP game. No matter what you're doing, you're competing against other players in some way and other players can compete with you in almost any way they see fit (within the bounds of the game's rules).
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2015-03-13 09:49:43 UTC
Commander Cute wrote:
BlackD3ath Spanski wrote:
and besides, how do people knowing my name make them find me in game?.. out of all the systems there is... like what

There is such a thing as locator agents. I have also forwarded this thread to a fellow CODE. agent and you should have received a mail from him by now.

Good day.


rookie griefer

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2015-03-13 09:55:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
BlackD3ath Spanski wrote:
and besides, how do people knowing my name make them find me in game?.. out of all the systems there is... like what

and why would it be worth it to blow up a retriever.. mining plagio in high sec, that just seems silly, the ship wreckage wouldnt be worth much would it? AND the ore is basic and useless.. or are people just bored
besides, every belt u go to in high sec there is a retriever there all the time... rather annoying that i would even be worried

also, great forums where they don't have an erase button...

That's almost as bad as salvage drones not spreading out to different targets automatically and all just going for the 1 ship closest at a time.


no people like commander cute over there are terrible at pvp so they have to pick targets who dont have any guns or much knowledge of the game, it makes them feel like they are achieving something when really they just sound pathetic. dont pay a mining permit because its just a scam.

highsec is more dangerous than any other part of space

salvage drones will automatically salvage if you dont lock any wrecks and just click slavage

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

kira1kuna
HC - killer chibi bears
#13 - 2015-03-13 11:03:25 UTC  |  Edited by: kira1kuna
salvaging missions that's what I see so far around 40~90 million in the period of two hours

find a good group of people are okay with you salvaging their crap
Azda Ja
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2015-03-13 11:29:08 UTC
Elena Thiesant wrote:
There's a large diagram showing piles of options on what to do in EVE. Find something you enjoy and ISK will follow from there. It's a game, it's meant to be fun, not a boring grind.

Here it is.

Grrr.

Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2015-03-13 11:45:48 UTC
Lesson learned OP: this forum is a very vital part of the game. Lol

I'm my own NPC alt.

Warmonger Simon
Trinity Alpha Zero
#16 - 2015-03-13 12:27:59 UTC
Elena Thiesant wrote:
Word of advice:
Mining is terrible ISK.


Just a note gas mining venture pays for itself pretty quick and is decent ISK if you really want to mine. Need to learn some scanning skills though.
Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2015-03-13 12:30:31 UTC
Since I don't know what your original post was, I'll just throw out some general tips that seem related based on the responses so far:

- Eve is a PvP game first and foremost. It is a universe full of people who want nothing more than to watch you explode and they all know what they're doing better than you do. And these bloodthirsty SOB's will use every bit of intel they can find in pursuit of said explosion. There are a lot of tools, both in game and out, that will help them find you and blow you up. And there is no "safe" place in the game except docked up in a station. A major feature of Eve is that anyone, any time, anywhere, for any reason can kill you. It's just a matter of how.

- Having said all that, explosions are ok! Again, this is a PvP game at it's core, so you're going to have to be ok with the idea of someone interrupting you while you mind your own business and giving you a big ole hug filled with ammunition. Don't take it personally. Losing a ship can be a set back, sure, especially when your just starting out. But being able to laugh it off, dust yourself off, and rebuild from your losses is a key part of enjoying this game.

- About that "intel" thing: Everything you do related to Eve can and probably is being watched by someone else. Your market activity in game, posting on the forums, your killboard, etc. These are all things that raise your public profile in Eve and make it more likely that someone will notice you and try to kill you. Does that mean you should avoid all social interaction and be a hermit just spinning your ship in station? Of course not! Just be aware, information is valuable and only you can control what information is out there.

- As to the original question in the thread title, mining is not very good isk per hour. It is relatively EASY isk per hour, and the skill and time investments are very low, and mining in high sec is relatively low risk (providing you aren't AFK and know when to bail out). However, the same "low skill" benefit can be found in things like exploration and ratting in lowsec, but those will come with a considerable jump in risk. Alternatively, running missions can eventually start to pay out very well once you reach higher end missions, but the time investment of grinding up to those can seem daunting. There are numerous other ways of making ISK, each with it's own levels of risk and challenge. The key is to find ways to make isk that you either enjoy or otherwise fit in to your overall playstyle. Once you've gotten that out of the way, the money will come.

Good luck out there, fly safe (or reckless!), have fun, and remember that it's all just internet space pixels. Cheers!
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2015-03-13 14:18:20 UTC
This is eve there is no best way there is only your way and someone else's way. You can find out what your way is by trying different stuff. You will be able to tell the things that are closer to your way as they will be fun.

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L'ouris
Have Naught Subsidiaries
#19 - 2015-03-13 19:28:02 UTC
RE: OP topic


at this point I would probably go with the 'endear yourself to those who blow you up and have them shower you in newbie isk for being a fun target' strategy. P
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#20 - 2015-03-13 19:55:02 UTC
I cant help it...

But I have the feeling this is a player from "That other game that shall not be named".


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