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Jenshae Chiroptera
#21 - 2015-03-13 00:35:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
M'pact wrote:
Nvidia's naming/numbering scheme is an easy indicator here. The second digit ...
... and tomorrow kids! I teach you how to suck eggs! Roll
Dersen Lowery wrote:
OP would be better off turning off brackets.
What if we are all flying Ishtars in a brawl?! Straight
(There wouldn't be a second step. I would turn them off before undocking so they never load in space).

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CCP Darwin
C C P
C C P Alliance
#22 - 2015-03-13 02:16:10 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
See what you started CCP Darwin? *Shakes fist*


I just asked for a bug report. Please submit one, preferably during or right after you have this problem.

CCP Darwin  •  Senior Software Engineer, Art & Graphics, EVE Online  •  @mark_wilkins
Jenshae Chiroptera
#23 - 2015-03-13 02:35:53 UTC
CCP Darwin wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
See what you started CCP Darwin? *Shakes fist*
I just asked for a bug report. Please submit one, preferably during or right after you have this problem.
Theatrical effects. I do submit a lot of bug reports.
The one related to this will probably be awhile in coming, it is not a frequent occurance and I will possibly remember after dying.

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Hannott Thanos
Squadron 15
#24 - 2015-03-13 07:59:42 UTC
Hi, I'm the owner of an ancient history museum, and I'd really like to talk to you about this cpu you have.

But seriously though. That thing is at best ten years old, fifteen at worst. One hyperthreaded core, between 1 and 5 years older than the minimum required specs for Eve.

while (CurrentSelectedTarget.Status == ShipStatus.Alive) {

     _myShip.FireAllGuns(CurrentSelectedTarget);

}
Jenshae Chiroptera
#25 - 2015-03-14 02:57:02 UTC
Tonight, (check my killboard) Pandemic Legion and Brave shooting us, I was one of the only people to survive.
Heaps of people on field, regular bombs going off and no lag.

It is specific to many anchored bubbles and smart bombs.

Optimising does not have to be done for the sake of old hardware, it can be done for the sake of improving a great game.

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Juan Mileghere
The Corporate Raiders
Safety.
#26 - 2015-03-14 06:02:25 UTC
Reina Xyaer wrote:
I'd never use this, but see no reason why you shouldn't be able to.

If you weren't already aware of these settings, in the mean time you can turn off all effects, turn off drone models, and turn your graphics all the way down, and I'd hope your PC can run that lag free. If not, I would seriously recommend upgrading, or just quitting EVE and playing smartphone games because you'd be a disgrace to the glorious PC master race.

EVE's usually a rather low requirement game, even on high and outside of large fleet engagements it runs easy on computers with less expensive hardware.

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CCP Darwin
C C P
C C P Alliance
#27 - 2015-03-14 06:19:45 UTC
I should repeat, just for clarity: If you're running on minimum settings and winding up having sustained periods of 0-3 FPS, and you're on a machine that meets the game's minimum requirements, it needs to be looked into by our QA department. It's possible that you're running software versions or specific hardware that isn't fully supported, or it might be a software defect. Without submitting a bug report as soon as possible after the problem happens, we have no way to tell what the issue could be.

CCP Darwin  •  Senior Software Engineer, Art & Graphics, EVE Online  •  @mark_wilkins
Jenshae Chiroptera
#28 - 2015-03-14 14:34:24 UTC
CCP Darwin wrote:
I should repeat, just for clarity: If you're running on minimum settings and winding up having sustained periods of 0-3 FPS, and you're on a machine that meets the game's minimum requirements, it needs to be looked into by our QA department. It's possible that you're running software versions or specific hardware that isn't fully supported, or it might be a software defect. Without submitting a bug report as soon as possible after the problem happens, we have no way to tell what the issue could be.
I will do it as soon as the conditions that make these circumstances occur.

Can we make this clear:

- I get lag under very specific circumstances that has very little to do with ships.
- I am not trying to get a fix for my lag with this thread.
- I am suggesting a way to maximise client performace

It is a bit like the new client coming with download on demand.
What if there is an option where I simply do not download the ships and skins because I do not need or want them?

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Lugh Crow-Slave
#29 - 2015-03-14 14:42:41 UTC
CCP Darwin wrote:
I should repeat, just for clarity: If you're running on minimum settings and winding up having sustained periods of 0-3 FPS, and you're on a machine that meets the game's minimum requirements, it needs to be looked into by our QA department. It's possible that you're running software versions or specific hardware that isn't fully supported, or it might be a software defect. Without submitting a bug report as soon as possible after the problem happens, we have no way to tell what the issue could be.



lol this happens with 50/50 chance anytime more than 4 bubbles overlap but i'll send in a bug report with shots next time it happens(also it seems lowing the settings makes it harder for my PC when bubbles are involved)

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The 16.8km Bubble
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#30 - 2015-03-14 19:16:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Vincent Athena
CCP Darwin wrote:
I should repeat, just for clarity: If you're running on minimum settings and winding up having sustained periods of 0-3 FPS, and you're on a machine that meets the game's minimum requirements, it needs to be looked into by our QA department. It's possible that you're running software versions or specific hardware that isn't fully supported, or it might be a software defect. Without submitting a bug report as soon as possible after the problem happens, we have no way to tell what the issue could be.

Wait, what? During mass tests I see 2 fps in general during the big fleet fight. Ive never been told that is bug worthy. Do you really mean the above, even for big fleet fights? Even on a Mac?

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Jenshae Chiroptera
#31 - 2015-03-15 02:54:44 UTC
Now that I am more aware of it, I noticed tonight a bit of FPS drop with interdictor bubbles.
It was soon after undocking and a camera reset.
I zoomed out and as soon as my camera was out of the bubbles, the lag vanished.

So, oddly enough ... is it possible the problem is from looking at the inside surface of multiple overlapping bubbles and then how it calculates looking at what is beyond them?

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

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Neckbeard Nolyfe
Zero Fun Allowed
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#32 - 2015-03-16 00:47:56 UTC
A year ago an eve client used 300mb or ram (low settings no sound), now its 650mb on the same settings.
Nothing of value changed so dramatically to justify such an increase, and performance keeps getting worse.

It's ok tho, soon we will have icons like the one in assassins creed!

~lvl 60 paladin~
Jenshae Chiroptera
#33 - 2015-03-16 01:56:32 UTC
Bigger textures.
More detailed models.
Deadlines, bloated code.

In my dreams as CCP CEO, I declare April and May janitor months.
Time to step back, look at the changes that are rushing in, optimise code, fix bugs, clean up the servers and the client.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

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EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#34 - 2015-03-16 06:19:24 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
I did try searching, maybe my terms went from too generic to too specific but I didn't find what I was looking for with the search engine.

I would like an option to turn all ships and drones in space into cuboids / retangular boxes.
  • 8 mesh nodes
  • 1 colour
  • No textures.

Can narrow one side and that gives ship direction, like 3D arrows.

This would greatly boost my system performance during blob vs blob fights.
I zoom way out and do not look at ships - so why load them?

Overview + colours + relative position in space is all I need.

Thank you, have a great week.

Edit: Corrected error. Also 5 nodes if they use elongated pyramids.


Confirming, brackets in space is all we need.

Keep your filthy textures.

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Hannott Thanos
Squadron 15
#35 - 2015-03-16 08:35:27 UTC
For reference:

OP's cpu is this one:
http://ark.intel.com/m/products/27497/Intel-Pentium-4-Processor-supporting-HT-Technology-3_00-GHz-1M-Cache-800-MHz-FSB#@product/specifications

Launched in 2004

This is the minimum from eve requirements:
http://ark.intel.com/m/products/31733/Intel-Pentium-Processor-E2180-1M-Cache-2_00-GHz-800-MHz-FSB#@product/specifications

Launched in 2007

while (CurrentSelectedTarget.Status == ShipStatus.Alive) {

     _myShip.FireAllGuns(CurrentSelectedTarget);

}
Komodo Askold
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#36 - 2015-03-16 10:50:03 UTC
If I saw your screen playing with such a setting turned on, I would start crying blood tears of sadness. Mah spaceship Sad

But as an option? Why not? If it does help your computer with your playstyle, it would be good. I have an alternative: what about simplified, flat pictures of each ship instead of just boxes? Like the ones on Sins of a Solar Empire when you zoom out enough.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#37 - 2015-03-16 13:58:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
Hannott Thanos wrote:
For reference: OP's cpu is this one:
Gosh! Spies! Spies everywhere! Shocked
Wait.... I don't even know exactly what chip I have .... so ... how did you find that out?
Also .... how did I lose a core?

Remembering that I have two machines.
The oldest of the two, that I use for comms and web browsing, the one with the weaker processor, has something like this. Apparently, the motherboard can fit something called a, "Core™ 2 Quad."

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

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EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Hannott Thanos
Squadron 15
#38 - 2015-03-16 16:33:32 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Hannott Thanos wrote:
For reference: OP's cpu is this one:
Gosh! Spies! Spies everywhere! Shocked
Wait.... I don't even know exactly what chip I have .... so ... how did you find that out?
Also .... how did I lose a core?

Remembering that I have two machines.
The oldest of the two, that I use for comms and web browsing, the one with the weaker processor, has something like this. Apparently, the motherboard can fit something called a, "Core™ 2 Quad."

Because "DxDiag says, Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00 GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz"
Also, the one you linked to there is also below minimum requirements

while (CurrentSelectedTarget.Status == ShipStatus.Alive) {

     _myShip.FireAllGuns(CurrentSelectedTarget);

}
Jenshae Chiroptera
#39 - 2015-03-16 17:22:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
Hannott Thanos wrote:
Because "DxDiag says, Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00 GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz"
Also, the one you linked to there is also below minimum requirements
It would seem DxDiag is not particularly specific.
As part of the mother of all de-railed threads, I just spent a stupidly long time finding the processor for you.
The manufacturer's site was rubbish. I had to go around and around (edit: on third party sites) and I kept finding models with the same board but completely different other configurations.

I intensely dislike you for the duration of today. I didn't need this information. I could see it in changed performance.

The web browser machine used to have a GTX 8800 attached to it and that card melted when Incarna came out along with a lot of other people's graphics cards. It then ran EVE on a GT 7300 back up card.
Other than the way realistic lighting is calculated, I do not know of any real changes to EVE since those times. I certainly do not feel any difference in the game interface and world. All I have noticed is the changes to ship and weapon mechanics.

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Jenshae Chiroptera
#40 - 2015-03-27 12:10:03 UTC
On a somewhat related note does EVE pre-load the grid we are warping into and if so is that lag spike the updated details on landing since it started the process?

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EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
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