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Dear CCP, Please STOP REUSING Historical Items for Sales & Marketing Promotions

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Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#101 - 2011-12-23 05:28:32 UTC
It is not only collectible items that feels unfair.

How about giving away **** loads of faction ammo or boosters etc... Some people try to do their living by selling those.

I think whole selection of gift contains too many items that are normal game items. Gifts should be something special example remap was good one.
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#102 - 2011-12-23 18:00:47 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:
Its kinda fun and sad seeing CCP step in bull crap left and right. And the silence on things that should be addressed speaks volumes.

They screwed up xmas gifts this year in many ways.

Its like they cant help but make people mad. Its almost like they are trying to **** of the customers these days.


I can't deny that we are all happy with these nice gifts, but I believe with the amount of time and effort it took for CCP to separately "create a new site," "implement a system that allows players to choose gifts," and "hand out unique gifts from pretty much out of all the historical collectible items," CCP could've used that time to create another new item as part of the Christmas gift.

Please stop recycling old historical items that have nothing to do with 2011 events.
Kessiaan
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#103 - 2011-12-23 18:17:03 UTC
Easy fix:

Copy and paste the item in question, give the new item a new name.
Marduk Nibiru
Chaos Delivery Systems
#104 - 2011-12-23 19:10:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Marduk Nibiru
The Antiquarian wrote:

As part of the "bringing new players initiative," CCP also decided to reuse the Cerebral Accelerator, a unique implant given as part of purchasing the commemorative "Commissioned Officer Edition." The same logic applies to the Accelerator as well. There are some extremely foolish people (like me) who purchased these boxes for the sake of obtaining the unique implant as collectibles. Reusing these items for other promotion only cheapens the sentimental values and experience associated with obtaining the items.


You started to have me until here. This is just silly. That implant was never meant as a collector's item. It was meant to help new players catch up a little. It's also not exactly "historic" in any meaningful definition of that word, nor were they unique at all. Not six months ago my friend bought 3-4 of those boxes just for that implant (and the fact that it was $5 cheaper than starting a new account online) and made his new toons upon joining the game. Dude's still paying even if he's not exactly active of late.

Hell, the GM's give them back if you get podded during the timer or do some other dumb thing to get it lost.

It's a major, important advertizing initiative that has had tangible results in increasing the player base....which is especially needed after the mass exodus that happened in reply to Incarna and that massive PR turd about boutique Japanese pants or whatever. I don't think it fair to expect CCP to stop releasing something of real value to players and to them just so you can have a unique item.

Now, if it was something like the ships given out as rewards at the tournaments or something like that...that's something to ***** about. People actually had to work for those items that WERE supposed to be unique. Re-releasing the Zephr and others though, you didn't do anything for that but be here and now other people are here too.

Edit: My God man, you can't even use that thing anymore and it's not transferable.
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#105 - 2011-12-23 19:47:46 UTC
nothing should become unobtainable.. i still think they should sell gold magnates for 20bill isk
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#106 - 2011-12-23 20:17:09 UTC
Herping yourDerp wrote:
nothing should become unobtainable.. i still think they should sell gold magnates for 20bill isk


It makes perfect sense that Gold Magnate is reintroduced in the game because there isn't any left, but that shouldn't apply to other currently existing super-unique items. There are players who spent a fortune buying ships in abidance to the prices set by the "invisible hand" and the preconception that the items are "unique" because all these items are historically associated with certain events/live events.

If CCP keeps introducing these historically unique items for other future promotions, its action not only screws up the market price, but it is also a good indicator that CCP completely ignores the "collecting profession (niche)" while completely devaluing the sentimental values attached to these wonderful items.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#107 - 2011-12-23 21:13:08 UTC
Herping yourDerp wrote:
nothing should become unobtainable.. i still think they should sell gold magnates for 20bill isk


Sure. And why not put the Freki and other limited edition ships BPOs on the market as well. Stick it to the big alliance smacktards right?

I'm kidding of course. And you are dumb.

Mr Epeen Cool
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#108 - 2011-12-26 02:52:48 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
We would like to see some consistency in CCP's sales promotion strategy. Sometimes you hand out PLEX discounts. Sometimes you recycle out ingame item of significant sentimental values, other times you hand out an Ishukone Special Edition shirt.

Dear venerable and great CCP, are you guys just throwing darts or rolling dice to come up with these incoherent random strategies?


Oh and we beg you to stop recycling old historical ships in the future promotion. Just create another set of NEW items please.


Please make the "collecting profession" worthwhile in the EVE Online.
CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#109 - 2012-03-25 20:21:59 UTC
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CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer

The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#110 - 2012-03-25 22:30:16 UTC
CCP Phantom wrote:
Inactive thread unlocked.


Thank you for the help! While you are here, Mr. CCP Phantom, would you care to explain about the status of these unique ingame items in the future? =(
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#111 - 2012-03-27 01:38:31 UTC
just "gift" us some skillpoints :P

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961

EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody

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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#112 - 2012-03-27 15:36:22 UTC
Any official confirmation from CCP?

Please let us know!
Glockshna Quant
Versatility Production Corporation' LLC
#113 - 2012-03-27 20:39:06 UTC
/signed
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#114 - 2012-03-30 10:48:06 UTC
Any official words yet, dear CCP?
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#115 - 2012-04-04 12:40:35 UTC
Could someone from CCP kindly confirm this?

It only takes 5 minutes of your time. Possibly 1 minute if you use your interoffice phone to call the Sales and Marketing department.

It is extremely demotivating when players spend hundreds of millions of items with expectation that these items will uphold their value and realizing several months later that CCP release these for other promotional events and completely devaluing their worth.
Killer Gandry
The Concilium Enterprises
#116 - 2012-04-04 14:02:22 UTC
I too find it questionable.

If this isn't clarified then we might aswel see Mimir's and State Ravens at some point obtainable by everyone and thus screwing up part of EVE history even more.

Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#117 - 2012-04-04 15:30:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Gogela
No. The Ultramarine version of the Quafe ship is a unique item. From a collector's perspective, it may as well be an entirely different ship. That Japanese iteron is just fine and awesome.

In fact, if they had done that with the re-issue of the Apotheosis, Zephyr, and Primae... just slapping a paint job on the new ones and giving it an unique ID, I wouldn't have had a gripe about that either.

You will also note the price spread and trends.

The Ultramarine Editition is about 4.5 bil on contracts and coming down. It's not even listed in the NPC market. The Ultra Edition is 550 mil and going up. Why are they trending this way? The Ultramarine Edition is still coming into the game as ne players in Japan start feeding the meat grinder. The Ultra Edition cost at least a plex and as much as a fanfest ticket to get and they are not coming into the game anymore. I think we will see, at some point this year, those price indexes cross paths.

They are different items. CCP did GOOD! CCP GOT IT RIGHT on the Ultramarine Edition release.

This should be encouraged. Hopefully the trend continues. Big smile

Signatures should be used responsibly...

Eko'mo
Eko Research Institute
#118 - 2012-04-04 19:42:30 UTC
There are a few of us interested in this, hopefully this flags on CCP's radar

http://ekolikecrayons.wordpress.com/about/

Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#119 - 2012-04-04 19:52:34 UTC
Gogela wrote:

They are different items. CCP did GOOD! CCP GOT IT RIGHT on the Ultramarine Edition release.

This should be encouraged. Hopefully the trend continues. Big smile


Quite, with new skinning options and decals available from V3. There should be no need to re-release an older present as a bonus ever again.
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#120 - 2012-04-05 11:17:28 UTC
I love you CCP, but are you guys not responding because you guys are planning on re-issuing these old historical items in the future for other Sales & Marketing promotions?