CSM Campaigns

Is it a war dec if it is just flagging some people up to trade hub camp? Doesn't sound very war like to me.

Something, Something, The Volition Cult. I dont think Jenny sees the trouble she is getting her alliance into Something Something #somethingevilnessandfun

So many negative comments fueled by madness and ignorance.

Misrepresentation of an argument, good show.

Do you honestly think that the ability for a group to set up hundreds of wardecs against a massive variety of groups for less than a single trader can make is a well balanced system? The idea of the wardec system was to allow groups to fight over their disagreements, structure, resources and other competition. It's to drive 2 way conflict which creates meaningful content. The way the system currently operates, it doesn't do that, it simply acts as an off switch for concord, allowing groups like yours to farm easy kills from players who have no interest or skill in fighting. And you don't have to choose "Ooh, do we wardec group A or wardec group B?", since you can just wardec both.

Further to that, it acts as a barrier for non-PvP groups who want to generate meaningful content in highsec, as it's so easy to pull off. Just look at groups like red-frog or pro synergy. They operate entirely out of NPC corps because operating a non-PvP group from a highsec corp is practically suicide. Before you go onto it, I don't care if you wardec my alliance. For all I care they could remove wardec fees against null blocs altogether and just let everyone have free targets, but it seems ludicrous to me that the current system is such that the most optimal and efficient method of running a large scale non-PvP group in highsec is to do so out of NPC corps.

And no, I didn't "follow orders". I vote for my choices for CSM, not the bloc vote. Some of those line up, which is great, but other choices and the order of the votes is significantly different. That said, I don't think being 14th CFC choice means much.

Eve is about sandcastles, Eve isnt safe and high-sec isnt a safe place. HTFU you carebear. It's unfair you can shoot anyone for free in null-sec and we have to pay for it in high-sec. Instead of you wanting to nerf null-sec/etc, you want to nerf the guys who already have to do more hard work and pay mucho iskies to get pvp in high-sec.

If you think you re having a hard time in Eve now, you should have been here a few years ago, when life in high-sec was much harder. Many nerfes have been set to high-sec. High-sec is already carebear land. You just want more, because you want it even easier. Because 'it's not fairrr'......boohoooo.....

Now stop this nonsense and tell me you secretly voted for more evil in in Eve !

We've been a year at war with the entire CFC and probably any other alliance in Eve. We done more then 10K wars total. Are you saying they're all weak ? Of course not and you know this as well. You only say that, because it fits your story. You are as selective with words as Goblin is with numbers. If people want to be in a safe place, let them move to null-sec. What's this CODE koolaid ? Marmites have been shooting people long before Code was a thing. And we're not gankers. So don't mix them up. Yarr, is a very nice expression ... YARR !

Finally something we can agree on, BEER !, to bad I wont be going this year. But I will next year.

If wars ever change in high- sec, the first ones to feel the pain are the industrials. Why do you think they sell so many ships now ? Only changes I want to see with the current war system, is a way to protect the smaller corps until they are a bit bigger. So they make more isks to hire mercs or setup their own defences. And for the gankers, I want to see more options for anti-gankers to fight back. But you can read about that in the OP. I do agree that paying 500M/week for a big null-sec alliance is unlogical. They are big and rich enough to defend themselves. The 500M barrier is just protecting them.

Lucas, I don't know how to break it to you but your whole argument is based on false premises and conjecture, friend.

Players who want to make isk and be in a corp should never be excluded from the rich interactions our virtual world has to offer.
They are not better off in NPC corps if not for taxes and no structures than at least for lack of interaction.
Corporations can take care of themselves and don't need your patronizing white-knight routine, thanks very much.

They could... I don't know, interact with the wardecers/mercs?
Don't want to PVP, all fine and dandy, even in a PVP centric game but there are consequences. Simple.
Do some diplo before you flaunt your bling maybe? Consider having some PVP pilots anyways? Hire protection maybe?
Be a part of the awesome meta? You'd have them build a castle in the sandbox and close the gates forever!
If you'd have your way, CCP should just instance the universe so everyone has his/her own personal 'shard' to grind in.

If I'd like to start a corporation in the real world but dislike taxes and finances, I can't decide to skip bookkeeping all together, can I? I should work around that, hire someone to take care of it.

It's impossible to take you serious while you constantly take a dump on the whole idea which EVE has thrived on, the spirit of the game and it's players. The day rabble-rousers like you get their way is the day EVE dies.

You are in way over your head if you think you can besmirch people like Tora, Feyd and the plethora of other real content creators with your inane, baseless fantasy. Grow up.

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Except they obviously are better off in NPC corps. Otherwise we would see all of these large non-PvP corps operating out of player corps. But we don't, they all operate from NPC corps.

That's right, they don;t want to PvP, and they shouldn't be force to in order to group with others. EVE is PvP centric but PvP is not limited to shooting people with guns. It's a sandbox game where people can play how they want and alternative methods of interaction should be cherished, not punished.

lol, bling. Corps barely have to have a financial footprint to become targets because wardecs are too cheap and too easy. I totally get that you'll deny that because you do them.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. EVE was not built on the premise of "just use guns all other playstyles should be removed". It's a sandbox game. A game where you make you own way. Balance has fallen towards favouring people who want to score easy kills with little to no effort like yourselves, and you'll say absolutely anything to protect your easy playstyle because you can;t be bothered to put the work in. Well tough luck, I'm fairly sure CCP are going to stop all over your little teaparty and you'll have to actually start working for what you get.

As for content creation - HA! Pew pewing noobs on the Jita undock isn't content creation. If anything it detract from content because other playstyle aren't given much of a chance. People like Feyd and Tora just want to whine on about how super easy everything is while they themselves revel in how easy their playstyles are. If you can't see the blatant hypocrisy there, that's your failing.

Hey ex-afterbirth, how you doin?

Tora might well know wardecs more that me, though I'd very much doubt it since the system is pretty simple. And sure, if you want the system more unbalanced in your favour (which I assume you do, since skill isn't exactly your middle name) then Tora is definitely your guy, though he'd likely not survive more than a few discussions before he gets makers as "too negative, disregard". If you fancy seeing actual balance being supported though like most players do, then he's the exact opposite of a good idea. And you can only really use the term "empire PvP" very loosely. Camping the Jita undock and smacktalking is hardly a good example of empire PvP.

Anyway, now that Tora has his little army of trolls well on their way to disagree with absolutely everything said I'm going to call it a day. I don't really fancy getting into the usual circular arguments which all boils down to "we cant easy PvP against unarmed targets - cos we're so hardcore".

TTFN