Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I'm just throwing out an Idea, whether it be OP, or straight up dumb. regardless I'd really like to see a caldari minmatar pirate faction

There is an iteration of every combination among pirate ranks except Caldari / Minmatar. which is weird they're the two most "piraty" races in the game.


Also there is also only one pirate faction that uses Hybrids..... and nothing in this game gives bonuses to smartbombs

so for vision on what these ships would be

three ships all with bonuses

10 hybrid damage -- Caldari
7.5 hybrid tracking -- Minmatar

role

75% reduction in smartbomb cycle time
50% reduction in Smartbomb cap usage

Mordus line was originally there to fill the caldari minmatar hole... but devs love gallente so it went to gallente for 'lore' reasons

Well, a Caldari / Minmatar pirate ship should have:
Caldari: Bonus to missile damage.
Minmatar: Bonus to Target painter.

That would be interesting.

lets face it that's already Mordus, I really wish Mordus ships were just rail monsters, seeing how its a Gal Cal hybrid and they're the two factions that share turrets.

Like I said, I'm not sure what really should make sense as a Calmatar pirate faction, I just had the thought of a rail thorax firewalling for it self, it sounded really entertaining at the time....... and once again not a single hull in this game buffs Smartbombs.

Someone wants to see MOAR PIPEBOMBING VIDEOS...

And i for one approve of our Chessy overlords...

I think the Thukker Tribe is probably the logical choice for a Minmatar-based Pirate faction. Here's a link to some interesting lore.

"The Thukkers maintain strong caravans, trade and scavenging operations making a huge portion of their economy with some minor criminal activities as well."

"The Thukkers were secretly involved in the construction of the Minmatar Elder Fleet and contributed forces to the Elder task forces... They are responsible for attacking CONCORD which served as a distraction as they prepared to attack Ammatar Mandate and the Amarr Empire in order to rescue Starkmanir slaves. They pushed deep into Amarr space destroying large portions of both the Imperial Navy and Ammatar Fleet until Jamyl Sarum's superweapon devastated the Elder Fleets into retreat and abandoned Thukker ground forces on Mekhios."

There's nothing in the lore specifically indicating any Minmatar-Caldari background, but given Thukker's allegiance it's unlikely that either Gallente or Amarr would be applicable. Caravans, trade and scavenging would seem to denote larger cargo holds, some salvage-based bonuses and self-sufficiency.

Caldari Bonus: 10% bonus to kinetic and explosive missile damage per level (battleship)
25% bonus to kinetic and explosive missile damage per level (cruiser)
30% bonus to kinetic and explosive missile damage per level (frigate)
Minmatar Bonus: 10% missile explosion velocity per level
Role Bonus: 100% bonus to salvager and salvager drone range/cycle time
50% reduction to all missile reload/swap times

Thukker ships would have predominantly low slots, high with utility and less mids. They would have the same base warp speeds, slightly less velocity than Angel ships, the highest inertia and lowest signature radius. Cargo space would be approximately 25% more than is typical of Pirate ships and they would sport more hull than shields or armor. These configurations and bonuses lend themselves towards a variety of hull-tanking, scavenging and transportation applications.

Battleship: 8L-4M-8H, 6 launchers; 50m3 drone bay, 25 mbit bandwidth
Cruiser: 6L-3M-6H, 5 launchers; 25m3 drone bay; 15 mbit bandwidth
Frigate: 4L-2M-4H, 3 launchers; 15m3 drone bay; 5 mbit bandwidth

Thukkers are missile masters, but their damage bonus is limited to kinetic and explosive (not great against shield-based setups, but fairly effective against armor tanks). Bonuses for shield boosting and target painters already exist with many other Minmatar ships and Marauders, so I wanted to expand on something a bit different with the explosion velocity bonus and missile reload reduction.

Comments welcome. Addendum: Here are a few cool ideas from Deviant Art.

Thukker Tsunami (battleship)
Thukker Arghor (cruiser)
Thukker Bazuk (frigate)

I remember back sometime in 2011 before all the factions/r&d corps got recolored the Minmatar Core Complexions tech 2 ships were mostly E-War ships and in their descriptions stated that they shared technology from the Caldari. However these of course did not have cross train bonuses, but my point is that there was an attempt to make the idea work.

I'd prefer a shiny Cyclone, but maybe that's just me.

Caldari = Megacorporation
Minmater = Slave

Megacorporation + Slave = Industry

So, Calmater (or Mindari) ships should be pirates industrial, pirates mining barge, or pirates Freighter.

It was just a suggestion. Insert (new pirate race) here.