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Out of Focus Odin's Call 576
DHB WildCat Out of Focus Odin's Call Likes received: 576	#1 - 2015-03-09 20:09:23 UTC \| Edited by: DHB WildCat 9 You had a dev blog that showed "Battleships are being used" in pvp damage. Can we get that graph without damage done to structures please? Thanks to help this is in reference to your Feb 27th, 2015 dev blog http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/balance-changes-coming-in-scylla/?_ga=1.64124652.275548287.1420932288

It's All About Me 11,530
Mr Epeen It's All About Me Likes received: 11,530	#2 - 2015-03-09 20:13:17 UTC 9 My guess is that if you take away structure bashing, it will look something like this: ! ! ! ! !---------------------------------- !____________________ Mr Epeen

The Troll Bridge 23,523
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge Likes received: 23,523	#3 - 2015-03-09 20:13:43 UTC 1 That graph was all sorts of fail anyways, why revisit just THAT particular number? *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*


DHB WildCat Out of Focus Odin's Call Likes received: 576	#4 - 2015-03-09 20:16:08 UTC 6 Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: That graph was all sorts of fail anyways, why revisit just THAT particular number? To prove that Battleships are hurting bad and grossly underused, in need of fixing

State War Academy Caldari State 112
Kestral Anneto State War Academy Caldari State Likes received: 112	#5 - 2015-03-09 20:16:29 UTC 3 CCP being clear with figures? You must be new here. In all seriousness, they wont release that simply because its the only thing that supports there argument to not change BS's, my opinion, I'd gladly to be proven wrong. Also, while your at it CCP, filter out damage done at gatecamps.

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Paranoid Loyd Likes received: 10,020	#6 - 2015-03-09 20:20:05 UTC Kestral Anneto wrote: Also, while your at it CCP, filter out damage done at gatecamps. Talk about being new around here, how exactly do you propose this is done? "There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix Fix the Prospect!


DHB WildCat Out of Focus Odin's Call Likes received: 576	#7 - 2015-03-09 20:22:44 UTC 1 Paranoid Loyd wrote: Kestral Anneto wrote: Also, while your at it CCP, filter out damage done at gatecamps. Talk about being new around here, how exactly do you propose this is done? gate camp damage is fine, thats ship vs ship which is awesome.... pvp should be ship vs ship ...............not ship vs unmanned (meaning no player) structure

Kestral Anneto

State War Academy

Caldari State

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#8 - 2015-03-09 20:23:53 UTC

Paranoid Loyd wrote:

Kestral Anneto wrote:

Also, while your at it CCP, filter out damage done at gatecamps.

Talk about being new around here, how exactly do you propose this is done?

simply by taking the measuring time from when the ship damaged jumped into a system, if its within, say the time for gate cloak to go, you could safely assume it was in a gate camp.

BlueWaffe 1,347
Lady Ayeipsia BlueWaffe Likes received: 1,347	#9 - 2015-03-09 20:29:28 UTC 1 Actually, I would like to see the graph without inclusion of smartbombs. Not all of us can do what Rooks and Kings do, and I would prefer that their tactics do not skew the results.

CODE.d 6,149
Arthur Aihaken CODE.d Likes received: 6,149	#10 - 2015-03-09 20:53:12 UTC DHB WildCat wrote: You had a dev blog that showed "Battleships are being used" in pvp damage. Can we get that graph without damage done to structures please? If I could also add to the request: Breakdown of high, low, null and wormhole space. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

Paranoid Loyd

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#11 - 2015-03-09 21:12:48 UTC | Edited by: Paranoid Loyd

Kestral Anneto wrote:

Paranoid Loyd wrote:

Kestral Anneto wrote:

Also, while your at it CCP, filter out damage done at gatecamps.

Talk about being new around here, how exactly do you propose this is done?

simply by taking the measuring time from when the ship damaged jumped into a system, if its within, say the time for gate cloak to go, you could safely assume it was in a gate camp.

Every BS playing station games will be improperly classed.
Every BS that warps to a close by belt/anomaly into a trap will be improperly classed.
Every BS that is caught rolling a WH will be improperly classed.
Every BS using the log-on trap will be improperly classed.
All hot-drops will be improperly classed. (Are we counting BLOPs in this?)

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

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ISquishWorms Likes received: 261	#12 - 2015-03-09 22:25:29 UTC \| Edited by: ISquishWorms 1 If I want to prove that pigs can fly I am sure I could manipulate the figures to show that they can. In the right hands (or is that wrong hands?) figures and statistics can be used to show and prove anything you wish them to. ‘No, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhh’.

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stoicfaux Likes received: 6,283	#13 - 2015-03-09 22:30:31 UTC 10 WTF? You have to include structure damage in the Battleships stats! The Damsel isn't going to free herself, you know. Err.. wait, when you said PvP, you weren't referring to Pirates versus Princesses were you? Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.

Weaponised Vegemite Flying Dangerous 47,807
Scipio Artelius Weaponised Vegemite Flying Dangerous Likes received: 47,807	#14 - 2015-03-09 22:31:24 UTC \| Edited by: Scipio Artelius Lady Ayeipsia wrote: Actually, I would like to see the graph without inclusion of smartbombs. Not all of us can do what Rooks and Kings do, and I would prefer that their tactics do not skew the results. When was the last time RnK smartbombed someone, like 2012 or something? Certainly not for quite a while.

stoicfaux

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#15 - 2015-03-09 22:32:30 UTC

ISquishWorms wrote:

If I want to prove that pigs can fly I am sure I could manipulate the figures to show that they can.

In the right hands (or is that wrong hands?) figures and statistics can be used to show and prove anything you wish them to.

This is the EVE player base we're talking about. There are no "right" hands. At least not on the keyboards anyway...

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.

SmilingVagrant

Doomheim

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#16 - 2015-03-09 23:05:39 UTC

Scipio Artelius wrote:

Lady Ayeipsia wrote:

Actually, I would like to see the graph without inclusion of smartbombs. Not all of us can do what Rooks and Kings do, and I would prefer that their tactics do not skew the results.

When was the last time RnK smartbombed someone, like 2012 or something?

Certainly not for quite a while.

RnK has been pipebombing far more recently than 2012.

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Serene Repose Likes received: 3,094	#17 - 2015-03-09 23:45:34 UTC Just goes to show you how quickly the undisciplined mind can leave the rails. We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Mephiztopheleze

Laphroaig Inc.

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#18 - 2015-03-10 00:14:48 UTC

DHB WildCat wrote:

You had a dev blog that showed "Battleships are being used" in pvp damage. Can we get that graph without damage done to structures please?

Thanks

to help this is in reference to your Feb 27th, 2015 dev blog
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/balance-changes-coming-in-scylla/?_ga=1.64124652.275548287.1420932288

+1

That graph would have some kind of meaning if we took out structure grinds. Surely it's not that hard to do.

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Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 625
Cancel Align NOW Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire Likes received: 625	#19 - 2015-03-10 00:24:07 UTC 1 With the removal of most structures under the proposed sovereignty changes I suspect revisiting this set of statistics in December next year will paint a very different picture.

Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 3,190
Rowells Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic Likes received: 3,190	#20 - 2015-03-10 04:10:17 UTC 1 Paranoid Loyd wrote: Kestral Anneto wrote: Also, while your at it CCP, filter out damage done at gatecamps. Talk about being new around here, how exactly do you propose this is done? check the logs to see if netflix or youtube is running. Should filter out all the data points we dont need.