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Calling out: Jill Antaris MIssing in Action

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Isis Yestin
Spontaneous Overload
#41 - 2015-03-08 16:47:08 UTC
Allright.
This is getting bigger and more general.
"How to deal with reports about players missing in action'

After CCP pointed me to authorities, I asked for more details and rules/laws concerning reports about missing players.
I want to know the policies/laws/rules about that.

I have contacted several gaming communities about their policies concerning this matter.
They do have the players IRL contact info, but they are bound by law and can't contact a player when players are reported missing. Except when ordered by authorities or next of kins.
Totally understandable; if players decide to leave a game willingly then their privacy should be protected.

But what if it's not the case of 'willingly leaving'?
There is no rule/law for that.
Player still paying for his/her accounts, so there isn't any 'concern'.
But...some players actually only have games to have social contacts..they (mostly) will only be missed by their fellow gamers.
How to deal with that, then?

I asked some communities about that, and about the law/rules.
Some responds i got back was:
"... I am afraid that our Game Masters are not in a position be able to talk about this subject with great authority"

I then was pointed to their legal departments.
That's a bit odd.
But i will contact those departments, i want to know the rules and laws, but somehow they're not willing to provide me, except when i contact legal departments 8)

I now am looking for any law/rule about matters like this.
In these times, when internet is getting more and more integrated into our lives and communities, there should be a possibility for checking upon players being reported missing in action.
This means that there is some authority needed for game communities.
There should be something possible, without needing to contact authorities.

Is there anyone out there with legal knowledge concerning this case? Can anyone point me to articles/laws concerning this case?
Because this sure isn't the first case, and certainly won't be the last.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#42 - 2015-03-08 17:07:03 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:

Vyl, I think no harm could come from some friends trying to make sure their friend is ok.


Not to seem harsh here, but true friends would have personal contact info for the missing player. I'm sure his real life friends know exactly how he's doing. It's his virtual make-believe friends that seem to be having an issue here.

Mr Epeen Cool
Isis Yestin
Spontaneous Overload
#43 - 2015-03-08 20:50:32 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Sibyyl wrote:

Vyl, I think no harm could come from some friends trying to make sure their friend is ok.


Not to seem harsh here, but true friends would have personal contact info for the missing player. I'm sure his real life friends know exactly how he's doing. It's his virtual make-believe friends that seem to be having an issue here.

Mr Epeen Cool



I see.
So what's your issue by posting this in a topic that is obviously not to your concern?
Do you have more info?

Thank you in advance.
Legion Masser
KROOKBORNE
Seventh Sanctum.
#44 - 2015-03-08 21:02:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Legion Masser
I really do hope you find out what happen to your friend and I hope he or she is alright. However maybe he does just want his privacy
I am one of 3 former leaders of a very large guild in an MMO we no longer play anymore, though we all still stayed managed to stay in contact. Sensing the immanent death of our "beloved" game, I created a Steam Community Group in which we all joined. Still to this day we have a our Non profit 1000 slot TS server in which all of our members still actively use.

Most leaders and officers exchanged phone numbers from all parts of the world . From North America to Japan , New Zealand and one from almost every country in Europe we msg each other on a regular basis to the detriment of our wallets $$$
This is because no one wanted to lose contact with each other because we all became true friends. Our game, dispite flopping became the vehicle that gave us all the opportunity to meet. People from almost every race , country and religion that all actually care about each other. One had his computer explode and couldn't afford a new one so we all pitched in and the prick had enough money to buy one of the very best Rigs in our group currently ! One lost her job and couldn't afford her rent and without asking she received enough rent to last her until she got back on her feet. These are just a few minor things we have done and would do for each other, though oddly enough I CANT even GET ONE OF THEM TO TRY EVE OUT with me hhahaha seriously not one!

The problem, as many have stated is he may not wish to link his online profile with his real life, many dont. We had members that didn't n it sucked but some people just like to keep their private life exactly that , private.

My advice, to avoid losing anymore of those you care about, start a simple Steam Group and add everyone, or exchange phone numbers , hell even apply for a Non profit TS server. This way you will have many other means to contact anyone else who may mysteriously disappear / need a break / get a GF, wife or even getting some strange . Maybe they pitched a perfect game at the bar/club for weeks on end.

Good luck finding Jill - Now I must to try to once again convince some of them to try out Eve , cuz DAYUM this game is almost as good as hot strange!

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#45 - 2015-03-08 21:08:05 UTC
Isis Yestin wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
Sibyyl wrote:

Vyl, I think no harm could come from some friends trying to make sure their friend is ok.


Not to seem harsh here, but true friends would have personal contact info for the missing player. I'm sure his real life friends know exactly how he's doing. It's his virtual make-believe friends that seem to be having an issue here.

Mr Epeen Cool



I see.
So what's your issue by posting this in a topic that is obviously not to your concern?
Do you have more info?

Thank you in advance.


If I can save one real person from having some freaky stalker find him in real life when he doesn't want to be found, then it was worth posting in here. And to your question. It is my concern. I feel it is only right to help a potential victim from getting DOXed because someone decided they were friends when they obviously weren't.

If he cared enough to let you know what his plans were, then he would have.

Mr Epeen Cool
Xylem Viliana
homeless bum
#46 - 2015-03-08 21:18:11 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Isis Yestin wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
Sibyyl wrote:

Vyl, I think no harm could come from some friends trying to make sure their friend is ok.


Not to seem harsh here, but true friends would have personal contact info for the missing player. I'm sure his real life friends know exactly how he's doing. It's his virtual make-believe friends that seem to be having an issue here.

Mr Epeen Cool



I see.
So what's your issue by posting this in a topic that is obviously not to your concern?
Do you have more info?

Thank you in advance.


If I can save one real person from having some freaky stalker find him in real life when he doesn't want to be found, then it was worth posting in here. And to your question. It is my concern. I feel it is only right to help a potential victim from getting DOXed because someone decided they were friends when they obviously weren't.

If he cared enough to let you know what his plans were, then he would have.

Mr Epeen Cool

If you cant post constructively and without person insults you might want to stop posting, or at least read the forum rules and pay attention to them.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#47 - 2015-03-09 15:11:26 UTC
This thread has been moved to Out of Pod Experience.

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Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
#48 - 2015-03-09 15:53:26 UTC

Surely (internet) friends have a bit more in common than gaming experience. Like an email, skype id or phone number...

"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#49 - 2015-03-10 00:47:05 UTC
Isis Yestin wrote:
Point already taken, and already taken into consideration.
I'm sorry you feel offended.

I made a decision out of all the IFS i could think of.
This seemed the best way.
I made my decision, which i'm still supporting.
IF not, then i hope Jill will sue me for this :) Or at least get my vindi to be blown up in an incursion site.
No regrets.
If you can't be helpful, please go somewhere else.
Thank you for your support tho.

IF you can't take constructive criticism without attacking the person offering it, then yes, Vyl is right -
you need to brush up on your manners.

The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.
Isis Yestin
Spontaneous Overload
#50 - 2015-03-13 10:00:35 UTC
Thanks to the community we had word that Jill Antaris is ok.
Everyone thank you for your support and help :)

Topic can be closed.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#51 - 2015-03-13 10:21:52 UTC
Thread closed at the polite request of the OP.

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