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Rainbows! Ponies! GUI needs a colour toggle!
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Jenshae Chiroptera
#41 - 2015-03-08 14:33:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
thowlimer wrote:
In all honesty i would settle for a big fat black line between every third button, at least then i would
learn(After a week or two) that the button i want is the third one in the second group etc.

As it is now i either have to start counting from top/bottom or lean in and squint,

And to all who have the eyesight that allows them to separate these new icons at a glance, good for you Shocked
my eyes sadly are a tad older and more tired so i tend to need that extra second or two to force
them to focus properly.

One question though, people who like the new icons, how many icons do you have on the neocom and
how large have you made it ?(personally i have about 15 or so icons and keep it thin enough that
i have room to add 2-3 and still show them all)
18 and could fit probably 5 more. 1980x1020 screen. I just looked at the corporation icon and mentally went, "What is that?" and had to hover text it.

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2015-03-09 03:13:18 UTC
thowlimer wrote:
One question though, people who like the new icons, how many icons do you have on the neocom and
how large have you made it ?(personally i have about 15 or so icons and keep it thin enough that
i have room to add 2-3 and still show them all)

I find the new icons to make less sense and are more difficult to distinguish due to them all looking too much alike. I try to remember approximately where each button is so I don't have to check too many before I get it. My eyesight is excellent, and my color vision is phenomenal. My eyes have no difficulty with computer screens whatsoever. I don't think I've met a better person than I to say that these icons are generally difficult to use. If I'm having trouble with them, something is wrong. I never have trouble seeing stuff. I have difficulty understanding how some kinds of animal camouflage are supposed to work because they stand out like a sore thumb to me. I can spot a yellow-orange period hidden in a wall of text. Everything anyone else can do with their eyes, so can I. But tell those icons apart without straining, I cannot. The only merit I can find with them is that if you are not using them but rather ignoring them, they blend in with the scenery much better when viewed from your peripheral vision.

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Jenshae Chiroptera
#43 - 2015-03-09 03:24:40 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
The only merit I can find with them is that if you are not using them but rather ignoring them, they blend in with the scenery much better when viewed from your peripheral vision.
True enough.
To add to the thread:
The problem is that it is meant to be an interface between as and the game. That it is less intuitive makes it less effective in its purpose.

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Iroquoiss Pliskin
9B30FF Labs
#44 - 2015-03-09 05:56:37 UTC
Give back colour (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

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Jenshae Chiroptera
#45 - 2015-03-09 14:10:31 UTC
Iroquoiss Pliskin wrote:
Give back colour (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
I am still here, still playing the game.
So, I haven't flipped any tables or stormed out of the room.
I am simply banging my cider tankard on the table like a gavel. Blink

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Theel Maas
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#46 - 2015-03-09 16:08:17 UTC
+1 to color on the neocom
Jenshae Chiroptera
#47 - 2015-03-10 02:01:25 UTC
Goons are starting to grow on me. These forums must be poisonous. P

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Jenshae Chiroptera
#48 - 2015-03-29 14:40:52 UTC
The Neocom is still horrible and this new download on demand is glitching (I have the whole client downloaded, so it should not be happening). More and more constant irritations and frustrations! X

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Jenshae Chiroptera
#49 - 2015-04-29 00:41:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
Talking about the damage control icon, that is too detailed and is not quickly enough identified:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Luna Le Fey wrote:
At least give it a bit of time before complaining, maybe it will grow on you.
People said that about the Neocom buttons, I am learning to use short cut key combinations because that is constant, annoying rubbish.

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Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
#50 - 2015-04-29 05:21:58 UTC
On the GUI - I am still struggling with the neocom icons however many weeks later, logging in ~4 times a week for play times of ~3 hrs. If I was going to get used to them, I would have done so by now.... (also, I think they're too small to be suitable for mono-chrome).

I also wouldn't mind the ability to change the colour of my UI windows independently of the others, but I guess that's a long way off.....

on the new icon:
I feel it loses the classic EVE-y feel that is consistent between mods, and is also too complicated to be recognised quickly. Could you do the new icon in your single colour stuff please?

For posting an idea into F&I: come up with idea, try and think how people could abuse this, try to fix your idea - loop the process until you can't see how it could be abused, then post to the forums to let us figure out how to abuse it..... If your idea can be abused, it [u]WILL[/u] be.
Iroquoiss Pliskin
9B30FF Labs
#51 - 2015-04-29 05:36:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Iroquoiss Pliskin
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
It is nearly two weeks later, this is a daily. "Hmm.... I think I will log into EVE. Ugh, new GUI." *Delay logging in as long as possible.*

It is really putting me off EVE and the more I use it the more tense I become and grind my teeth.

What is the point of a feedback thread if you can't make a small hot fix?


Even crayon-coloured would be heaps better than this non-contrasting monochrome that we have right now.

I have no idea how they came up with colourless GUI.

Xe'Cara'eos wrote:
On the GUI - I am still struggling with the neocom icons however many weeks later, logging in ~4 times a week for play times of ~3 hrs. If I was going to get used to them, I would have done so by now.... (also, I think they're too small to be suitable for mono-chrome).


Precisely and likewise.

The whole colourless, non-contrasting concept is at fault here. What?

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McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
#52 - 2015-04-29 08:41:31 UTC  |  Edited by: McChicken Combo HalfMayo
Everything in today's world is dumbed down for idiots. I imagine this is how the conversation went...

"Hey Jon, maybe we should include a color slider for UI customization."
"A color slider? Are you crazy? These are human beings we're talking about! They won't know how to use a freakin color slider! They'll try making their menu a sleek gray or something and before they know it everything is hot pink and baby blue, they've ragequit the game, and they're playing Farmville again."

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Iroquoiss Pliskin
9B30FF Labs
#53 - 2015-04-29 08:50:38 UTC
Slider settings aside, I simply can not fathom why the concept of a colourless GUI would even come up.

There is no comparison, this is superior - http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/63565/1/Inventory_Neocom.png

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Iroquoiss Pliskin
9B30FF Labs
#54 - 2015-04-29 15:07:20 UTC
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#55 - 2015-04-29 22:20:35 UTC
The coloring reminds me of that of Sim city 2000... Thanks for reminding me of good memories.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#56 - 2015-04-29 22:48:21 UTC
Iroquoiss Pliskin wrote:
http://understandinggraphics.com/design/10-reasons-to-use-color/
Quoting to the OP. Thank you.

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Iroquoiss Pliskin
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#57 - 2015-05-01 07:03:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Iroquoiss Pliskin
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Iroquoiss Pliskin wrote:
http://understandinggraphics.com/design/10-reasons-to-use-color/
Quoting to the OP. Thank you.


Logged in today - just like er'ryday. Nope. No colour found. vOv

Although, there is a sexy icon that stands out now - the new map with a red beta symbol.

Bring back colour! This is a vital Quality of Life improvement. What?

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Jenshae Chiroptera
#58 - 2015-05-01 12:07:41 UTC
Iroquoiss Pliskin wrote:
Although, there is a sexy icon that stands out now - the new map with a red beta symbol.
Despite all the sexiness, I turn mine off.

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Jenshae Chiroptera
#59 - 2015-05-15 14:57:19 UTC
I still want the option to add colours.

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Iroquoiss Pliskin
9B30FF Labs
#60 - 2015-05-15 15:20:20 UTC
We all do.

I still don't understand. Sad

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