Player Features and Ideas Discussion

And it should be pink.

Left out the finer details? You've left out all the details, its a "wouldn't it be nice if we had things we already have, but they could also be like other things we already have" post, with a "think of the noobs" tacked on.
Not an idea, features are already in the game.

Problem is that noobs still won't know what to do. They will still need an experienced player(s) to coach them through whatever is offered. Not only that, but to make it worth doing by anyone, it will have to be attractive. That means that it jus becomes another highsec eve clique. Missioners, incurionists, fw'ers and now something that is sorta-like-it-but-kinda-not

Yes. Thanks for sharing your opinion.

Ok, well made point.

So here's how I see it. Similar to how incursion are now as a constellation wide events pitching well equipped well funded fleets to quickly gain as much as fast as possible and move onto the next one, the idea I've put forth above would be only a local system and an optional headless fleet vs local rats and simular to factional warfare gaining control of local points on the map equates winning or losing control.

It's not intended to replace or augment either factional warfare or incursions but perhaps more of an introduction to them.
It's not like CCP haven't done similar events in the past with actors roaming rookie systems, this is just an extension of this.

It would still be a mission after all and with all of their caveats such as ship restrictions and heavy and clear health warning on the box such as we have in burner missions now. And of course more experienced players would have a role but at the same time so would every one else. By headless fleet i mean all leadership functions are removed all pilot are forced equal and if it's even possible goals are either NPC broadcasted locally or within the fleet UI.

Winning gains that system a small buff/benefits for a small time and losing counter this.

An interesting outcome of this would be if ppl deliberately and tactically force a loss and perhaps results in ppl moving more greener pastures.

How about new way of FW. A local mission, where all four FW's have to combine their strenght and united forces against CONCORD?

No, its the same thing as an incursion, just not called "incursion" and limited to a single system, with less people involved in farming them.

If they made incursions actually matter and have legit consequences for not getting rid of them then maybe locals might feel obligated to defend their stuff if their home station was under fire from a sansha fleet. You kill the fleet and work to end the incursion, your stuff doesn't explode... you sit around and let other people farm the incursion, your stuff explodes.

So you want just a single 1 time short term event like a mission? So it would be over before half the people even knew it was there? In order to get any sort of community involvement you would have to have some sort of system wide announcement, but then would you extend that to neighboring systems too so you would catch people currently next door running a mission or mining? And how many people are you thinking this will require to do? If you are looking for a large number good luck in with that without just creating a new smaller incursion community.

I understand what you are trying to go for, but its not going to happen, nobody will do it unless its worth farming, and then people will farm the crap out of it.

And you can't make the "system boosts" for completing it very high due to the fact that if it is random and happens to come around again or two or three more times, then how ridiculous would that buff be?

+1 from me
When I used to live in Uphallant there was a lvl 4 mission that spawned the mission around a station. Id undock and there would be a npc pirate fleet fighting who was doing the mission and people that undocked.

I disagree, this just reused elements that are already applied elsewhere in PvE features in the game and brings them all together in one place.

Let me ask you this, when an incursion lands in mission hub and its effects disrupt LP/trade/bounties wht do you do? Sit it out, join in? Move on? For most this isn't a viable option and I'm not attempting to fix what's wrong with how it is now. I'm simply looking to bring more of EVE's rich content to more players.
The biggest difference with my idea and what we have now is with this you can do something about it and you can ignore it. And further more it's open to all that meets it's ship restrictions

Since it is nearly impossible to get into an Incursion fleet ( 1-2 hour waits are common ) most people simply pack up and move out of the affected area until the Incursion bozos have sucked every single LP and ISK possible out and it ends. Then the rest move back in and do what they always did. See the Incursion fleets have this thing figured so they can run the bare minimum size fleet and in the process maximize every single LP and ISK possible for those lucky enough to join a fleet. If the rewards given for your idea were raised to the point that it was worth doing it at all then this same pattern would prevail in you mini-incursions.

Keep the rewards level where you are proposing and to be honest they are simply not worth the time and risk to ones ships to even bother with them when you can make more ISK and have more fun doing other things.

And we still have not addressed the point of the new players you want to attract. If the difficulty level is set low enough for the new players then the vets may run a few to see what they are about and then move on to more challenging and more lucrative opportunities. Make them hard enough so there may be some interest to vets and you eliminate a vast majority of the newer players that may want to try these.

I understand and appreciate your desire to create something that will attract players and encourage cooperation but you really need to face the simple facts of this and any other game. Those who want to participate in group activities will find them, those that want to do it solo always will and there is nothing you can do except chase them out of the game by trying to force them into something they do not want to be a part of.