Ships & Modules

Welcome to the age old debate of Tach vs Pulse and MWD vs MJD.

What it really comes down to is your own preference. You stated that you're looking for easy missioning rather than max dps or efficiency, so in your case especially there's no wrong answer.

All I can really do here is show you what I use and why it works for me, and let you make your own decisions.

[Paladin]

Mega Pulse Laser II
Mega Pulse Laser II
Mega Pulse Laser II
Mega Pulse Laser II
Small Tractor Beam II
Small Tractor Beam II
Small Tractor Beam II
Basion Module I

Tracking Computer II
Tracking Computer II
Cap Recharger II
100mn Microwarpdrive II

Faction Rep
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink

Large Cap Control Circuit II
Large Cap Control Circuit II

Hobs and Warrior Drones in the bay


I like to lazy mission from my ****** laptop while I'm at work so this setup works great for me. Plenty of tank for any regular level 4 mission, even with full room aggro. Reps repair about 40% armor per cycle with bastion running, so it's definitely overkill. Cap stable at like 35%.

I mission by taking out 2 missions at a time, loading up my cargo hold with MTU's (I have 20 in station with me) and then drop an MTU at every pocket that's worth looting. When all my MTU's are used up i'll jump in my hauler and warp around to collect the MTU's and their cargo. I find that this saves a lot of time that would otherwise be spent looting in the Paladin.

Local tractor beams are for salvaging mission items or for the odd time I loot a pocket with only a few rats and don't want to use an MTU to do it.

I don't find that salvaging is worth my time. You get stuff like armor plates that build up over time and can be sold for some nice isk if you have a large stack of them, but again - Generally not worth the effort.

My personal preference is for pulse lasers. Yes they do mostly EM damage with Scorch loaded, and scorch is your most frequently used ammo when using pulses, but I mission in Amarr space so it's not a problem. Therefore I would naturally suggest that you try out pulses but if you're set with beams then use those.

I also don't really like MJD's because as far as I can see it's mostly just a waste of time to MJD out 100km and then MJD back in. And what if you have a gate around 50km away from the warp in? MJD-Fu will take care of that but I'd rather just burn there with my MWD. It's also a lot harder to loot if you're using an MJD - You're way outside of tractor beam range for most of the fight, and during the fight is when you should ideally be looting for maximum efficiency, not after the rats are all dead.

As for everything else...I don't know what your cap life is like with the MJD but I might suggest that you replace 2 of those Cap Rechargers for Tracking Computers and make up for it by putting on another Cap Control Circuit in the rigs. The Auxiliary Nano Pump isn't really necessary anyway - You've already got more than enough tank without it.

Take those Tracking Enhancers out of the low slots - You should have Tracking Computers in the mids. Now put a DCU in one of those low slots and fill the remaining one with either another EANM or another Heat Sink.

Just my 2 cents.

Not completely cap stable (7 minutes), but often I don't need to use the repper at all because stuff just dies before it gets into range.
If you absolutely want cap stability replace one TC with another cap recharger.

No need for pimp - especially not tank on a sniper fit. The Paladin is overkill for L4s anyway.

[Paladin, l4]

Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Large Armor Repairer II
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

Large Micro Jump Drive
True Sansha Cap Recharger
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script

Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Bastion Module I
Small Tractor Beam II
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Large Energy Burst Aerator II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

If you are salvaging why not just take a MTU for each room, drop it, BM it and come back in a noctis?

Alternatively (especially if you are multiple jumps away from base), create a safe close by as you are warping to the mission, leave a MTU in each room, refit with all salvagers and warp to each BM after the mission is complete.

May not jive with your style, just a suggestion.

If you're gonna use that X-type repper worth nearly 500 mil (Not to mention the faction Heat Sinks) you may really want to consider using a DCU to defend against ganks. The resists you get with a DCU and Bastion are incredible.

I missioned in a 5b isk nightmare for a couple years without one gank attempt. in high sec.. just depends where you mission.

Those reppers are dropping in price, that X-type is now just 350m. If it was still 500-600m+ (or 1.5b+ like it used to be) i would agree, but it's dropped down far enough (and is still dropping) to make it worth it. Less tanking mods needed, more room for damage :)

Also, as i said before, i want to run missions in a more relaxed way, and if splashing out just a tiny bit to reach that goal is necessary i will do that :)

That said, i changed the fit just a bit:

[Paladin, Missions Test]
Core X-Type Large Armor Repairer
Dark Blood Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Capacitor Power Relay II

Large Micro Jump Drive
Tracking Computer II
Tracking Computer II
Cap Recharger II

Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Bastion Module I
Small Tractor Beam II
Small Tractor Beam II
Small Tractor Beam II

Large Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II

Hobgoblin II x5
(warriors and hobgoblins in reserve)


Still cap stable but still relatively safe to run. Switched to Core X-type - down to 230m for a repper is pretty good.

I don't like going pulse - Scorch really does less DPS at range than INMF on tachs, plus tachs really do one shot almost everything except BS, whereas pulses usually need 2 shots for cruisers and up, so the lower cycle time ends up being a crutch (2 pulse shots are longer than 1 tach shot) unless there's more frigates than anything else going around. Besides, pala has the cap and pg to go tach, so tach it is.

Yes, looks much better now. Only 1 high value mod makes a gank less attractive. But tbh what the hell do you expect from being cap stable?

Work may demand sudden attention (emergencies outside office hours), having cap stable, good tank means i can go afk for a few minutes (or more) without having to worry about the ship. EVE is one of those games you can't pause you know :)

Not sure if you're still looking for feedback but imma throw some out there if you want. I'd really reconsider the cap mods esp on the pally. Just to help put things in perspective, my pally runs pulse w/ conflag usually loaded, it has a MWD fit that lowers the cap pool, uses the MWD to stay in range, and has a crappier tank than what you have, while staying at close range (taking more dmg). Even with all that going on, it still doesn't run into cap problems and I haven't fitted any cap modules/rigs. It's cap / cap pool is really good. Since you've got a MJD going on ur fit anyway, I'd encourage to try it without cap mods and if ur comfortable, it should open up some slots to make the fit more efficient.

I don't have EFT on me at the moment but some things to consider if ur willing to give up the cap and have the fitting available:
Drop the PG rig in favor of a RC / PDS in the low. Opening up the rig could let you fit warpspeed if you have the CPU, or something like burst II for a bit more dps and lower cycle time

Replace the cap recharger for another TC.

If you have the CPU, consider changing 1 of ur heat sinks to t2, the dps difference is negligible and of course, dps increases that don't result in fewer volleys won't impact ur clear speed.



Yeah, if you want something long ranged and relaxed, beams are the way to go. Scorch is a comparatively nice long range ammo for a short range weapon system compared to other long range ammos, but scorch won't outperform beams. Not to say pulse don't have their advantages though. Pulse will destroy many ships faster than beams. For cruisers, it takes pulse 1-2 shots, so they don't frequently require 2 full volleys, and of course a short range fit means that wrecks will usually be in tractor range when they're created

This is why I prefer lots of cap. Working dispatch for a police department means that while the nights are often slow and uneventful, leaving me to play Eve to my heart's content, on those occasions where something serious comes up and I need to step away from the computer for long periods of time, I know that I won't die due to running out of cap.

Having said that, the guns are a huge cap drain and when they're not firing, problem solved.

Still...I'd rather be safe.