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Elite: Dangerous v EVE

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DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#181 - 2014-12-22 18:00:37 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
So Elite has been out for 6 days. I haven't checked my hard drive for signs or Rigor mortis yet, so can someone tell me if EVE is dead yet (as predicted) or not?

Twisted



I play in the evening US and I have not noticed a huge drop in players online.. so I'm going with no. People are prolly playing both and with eves unlimited queue... as ED is F2P past initial cost (I think, correct if wrong) you can easily train in eve and play ED till your training is done. It was a brilliant move by ccp that.

I take back my previous comment, I might have to poke my head into ED so know for sure if I could like it or not. but ill wait a bit longer

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

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Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#182 - 2014-12-23 11:04:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Debora Tsung
Unezka Turigahl wrote:
Dang. ED's spaceships are even more boring looking than SC's. Why can't anyone hire some decent designers.

they don't look boring, they look like classics. :)

Most of them anyways. Ugh

Late EDIT: just discovered the typos...

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

Sticky: AFK Cloaking Thread It's not pretty, but it's there.

Cartridgexxxx
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#183 - 2015-01-10 16:41:09 UTC
SUPERcruise blueballs and a no-one there I need
Herzyr
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#184 - 2015-01-12 22:58:12 UTC
I don't know whether to start a new thread asking but I will ask here just in case.

Any capsuleers here have tried E:D? Any deep insights I may have? I have read a lot of reviews, and its summarized as:

''A huge grind (money wise) if you plan to PvP in a competitive ship''
''Not enough things to do, AKA not enough sandboxy''
''Not deep enough''
''Very good combat but you can only get so much of that before you get tired''


So even though there seems to be more cons than pros, for some reason, I feel like the only way to clear my doubts is to buy the game but there is a certain fear that it will pull me away from EVE, I want to try, but I don't want to compromise.

Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#185 - 2015-01-13 10:45:56 UTC
Herzyr wrote:
I don't know whether to start a new thread asking but I will ask here just in case.

Any capsuleers here have tried E:D? Any deep insights I may have? I have read a lot of reviews, and its summarized as:

''A huge grind (money wise) if you plan to PvP in a competitive ship''
''Not enough things to do, AKA not enough sandboxy''
''Not deep enough''
''Very good combat but you can only get so much of that before you get tired''


So even though there seems to be more cons than pros, for some reason, I feel like the only way to clear my doubts is to buy the game but there is a certain fear that it will pull me away from EVE, I want to try, but I don't want to compromise.

Tried it, it's fun, but only about 10 different ships + 4 station models and ship fitting is a mess.

Basically it's like the original ELITE which was the initial inspiration for EVE. Only with better graphics.

My only beef is that they didn't yet implement player to player trade, or any ship bigger than a Crow... Straight

Other than that, I wanted ELITE and I got ELITE, I won't complain.

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

Sticky: AFK Cloaking Thread It's not pretty, but it's there.

Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#186 - 2015-01-13 13:58:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Commissar Kate
Debora Tsung wrote:
Herzyr wrote:
I don't know whether to start a new thread asking but I will ask here just in case.

Any capsuleers here have tried E:D? Any deep insights I may have? I have read a lot of reviews, and its summarized as:

''A huge grind (money wise) if you plan to PvP in a competitive ship''
''Not enough things to do, AKA not enough sandboxy''
''Not deep enough''
''Very good combat but you can only get so much of that before you get tired''


So even though there seems to be more cons than pros, for some reason, I feel like the only way to clear my doubts is to buy the game but there is a certain fear that it will pull me away from EVE, I want to try, but I don't want to compromise.

Tried it, it's fun, but only about 10 different ships + 4 station models and ship fitting is a mess.

Basically it's like the original ELITE which was the initial inspiration for EVE. Only with better graphics.

My only beef is that they didn't yet implement player to player trade, or any ship bigger than a Crow... Straight

Other than that, I wanted ELITE and I got ELITE, I won't complain.



There are plans to add around 15 more ships to Elite with another one coming soon.

I'm kinda disappointed that we can't land on planets yet like in the old Elites. Hopefully that will be a feature in one of the expansions to the game.
Velarra
#187 - 2015-01-13 15:53:46 UTC
ED's camera motion and lack of adhering to the 180 rule induced 3D nausia. Not interested after ~40 or so minutes of the experience. Fortunately CCP resolved that issue in Eve after about a year.
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#188 - 2015-01-13 22:15:30 UTC
Commissar Kate wrote:
There are plans to add around 15 more ships to Elite with another one coming soon.

I'm kinda disappointed that we can't land on planets yet like in the old Elites. Hopefully that will be a feature in one of the expansions to the game.

Last I read about that they were thinking about planning about implementing that feature...

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

Sticky: AFK Cloaking Thread It's not pretty, but it's there.

Dave Viker
Do you even Exist.
#189 - 2015-01-14 12:05:11 UTC
You absolutely can't compare those two games, the only thing they share is Space.

Eve is built on a completely different fundament, where tactics and smartness are important.
Elite uses mechanical skill and has that "in-space" feeling, that EVE is "lacking" for most people.

Both games are good, but EVE still wins for me.

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raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#190 - 2015-01-15 02:31:15 UTC
Been busy with Elite but took some time to check out the new Proteus expansion and made a video about it and the state of EVE. Hope you guys enjoy it Blink
Badel Jramodarr
#191 - 2015-01-15 06:57:37 UTC
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#192 - 2015-01-15 22:14:58 UTC
Badel Jramodarr wrote:
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More or less what I was expecting. Been saving my "quid" for the time it becomes "more complete". It will eventually get much better (not that it is bad now from the general consensus I have perceived) but It seems from a total outsider perspective it still needs a long way to go to appeal to a much broader audience, in which I include myself.

EVE has spoiled me in that way. People and their "content generation". Doesnt seem E:D can give you that in this stage of the game´s lifespan.

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Something Random
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#193 - 2015-01-15 23:05:31 UTC
Herzyr wrote:
I don't know whether to start a new thread asking but I will ask here just in case.

Any capsuleers here have tried E:D? Any deep insights I may have? I have read a lot of reviews, and its summarized as:

''A huge grind (money wise) if you plan to PvP in a competitive ship''
''Not enough things to do, AKA not enough sandboxy''
''Not deep enough''
''Very good combat but you can only get so much of that before you get tired''


So even though there seems to be more cons than pros, for some reason, I feel like the only way to clear my doubts is to buy the game but there is a certain fear that it will pull me away from EVE, I want to try, but I don't want to compromise.




Ill bump in here
Sensible criticism/questioning

Ive Betad E:D as an observer btw

'A huge grind (money wise) if you plan to PvP in a competitive ship''
This is a downside ? this is the same as anywhere in MMO land ive been - however im happy in elite to hang out in a local 'resource deposit' wait until someone turns red and pick off the bounty in a free ship. I think thats also familiar to certain MMO's.

Not enough things to do, AKA not enough sandboxy''
Minds your limit - but you do get stuck with AI more than certain other MMO's

"Not deep enough''
It just got released - and they have plans it seems. Expect NPC bounty/mission to increase i guess.

''Very good combat but you can only get so much of that before you get tired''
In its infancy - its going to get very hard once we're all 'on it' - venturing to anarchy will have as much depth as null for sure.


I like the twitch game - shoot me (please cause currently i twitch for 12 credits a lost ship and make lots more for each that tries)

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raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#194 - 2015-03-06 18:10:34 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
Did you guys hear about the Elite Dangerous 1.2 Wings Update? There's a beta test build live in the ED launcher for all the people with beta access to play with.

One thing I always liked about EVE was the ability to form wings with your buddies and roam the space lanes together, always keeping in touch, sharing intel and warping/jumping into distant space as one. Now you can do that in Elite too! That's right! 1.2 Wings Update is bringing a lot of grouping perks into the game for the commanders to enjoy.

The £10.000 Race to Elite is also still up, last week 2 commanders claimed to have achieved Triple Elite status (trading, exploration and combat) within the competition rules. Will one of them be the winner? Frontier is now checking the legitimacy of their achievements.

more info at the Elite: Dangerous website
Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#195 - 2015-03-06 19:26:17 UTC
This update with the wing stuff should have been in the game since release. Would have made things a lot easier.

Vulture is interesting too. Little ship with big guns.
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#196 - 2015-03-06 20:06:54 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
Commissar Kate wrote:
This update with the wing stuff should have been in the game since release. Would have made things a lot easier.

Vulture is interesting too. Little ship with big guns.


Yep, I agree. Being able to share bounty rewards with mates instead of having to target different enemies all the time to not steal kills would have made bounty hunting easier and more enjoyable from scratch.
Also some other things they're yet to implement like Alliance ranking system and ships (Federation and Empire ranks are there since launch and the Federal Dropship and Imperial Clipper are available to those faction's ranked pilots but theres nothing for Alliance) could have been there at launch but overall I'm very satisfied with the game and seeing the dedication and output of these guys I'm confident that everything Frontier promised to the backers will be ingame in due time.
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#197 - 2015-03-06 20:29:36 UTC
Commissar Kate wrote:
This update with the wing stuff should have been in the game since release. Would have made things a lot easier.

Vulture is interesting too. Little ship with big guns.


I am waiting until they flesh out those E:D bones a bit. Specially with avatars. As for content... how was EVE in 2003?
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#198 - 2015-03-06 20:35:20 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Commissar Kate wrote:
This update with the wing stuff should have been in the game since release. Would have made things a lot easier.

Vulture is interesting too. Little ship with big guns.


I am waiting until they flesh out those E:D bones a bit. Specially with avatars. As for content... how was EVE in 2003?



i can;t comment on eve in 03 as i joined in 04, but after castor in 03 it got alot of new game play. On release eve lacked more then i think lvl 3 missions, and the biggest ship was a cruiser. Stuff was not fleshed out till after Castor.

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.

Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#199 - 2015-03-06 21:45:18 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Commissar Kate wrote:
This update with the wing stuff should have been in the game since release. Would have made things a lot easier.

Vulture is interesting too. Little ship with big guns.


I am waiting until they flesh out those E:D bones a bit. Specially with avatars. As for content... how was EVE in 2003?


For me I'd much rather see landing on planets be released before avatar stuff.

Landing on planets is one thing I miss that ED does not currently have but Frontier did.
Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#200 - 2015-03-06 21:57:05 UTC
funny how all these Elite enthusiasts need EVE forums to communicate