EVE General Discussion

You realize most of the alliances that are the constant target for finger pointers, all have open financials posted either on their super serious 'spreadsheets online' forums, or in game right?

The claim is they SELL the ISK they make form those moons to get personally rich with real money.

Edit: Zero tolerance Alliance: Ivy League. But they hold no sov.

Maybe if CCP instituted actual rewards (for example, 0.5% of botted isk goes to the whistle blower) on bots reported via their "Report Bot" menu option, more people would be willing to break the "don't ask, don't tell" bot-agreement?

Or everyone would go all über-snitch hoping to score free isk, and there would be more than 9000 reports per hour.

I think you should never post again.

lol.. you see any anybody who believes that this kind of thing goes on is not going to believe a spreadsheet which any alliance in question creates.

Spreadsheets that I will admit I have never seen or even heard off.

What I find interesting is that you are trying to claim that only people who live in high sec are making these kind of claims and also you seem very agitated.

The plain fact of the matter is that many people, regardless of their play style or location within Eve do believe that these alliances are involved in RMT in some form.

Whether this is right or wrong is irreverent, what matter is that the perception is here and its exists.

Its is a perception which is consistently brought up and discussed time and again and is damaging for CCP from a PR stand point.

As a developer you do not want to be associated with any rumour that involves you conspiring / being associated / or turing a blind eye to / with players who are actively involved in RMT.

Spend a few minutes on dotlan and you will find many systems in null where you will have only a small amount of jumps in the last 24 hrs but a very high number of NPC's kills.

For example found a system Pure Blind where it is only showing 9 jump but 696 NPC's kills in the last 24 hours.

Now does this mean people of botting, of course it doesn't, but would such kinds of number warrant a Dev or GM to spend a few minutes to investigate.. perhaps.

Its numbers like this which make people question whether CCP are indeed serious in clamping down / stopping RMT and Botting.

However as I have said before, because CCP do not release any meaning information about their work on botting / RMT, and many would say for good reason, the suspicion will always be there.

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I just want to point out that I did not choose Pure Blind on purpose, its just that I recently been talking about that system to somebody and it stuck in my head is all

So my apologies if me using Pure Blind as an example upsets anybody, it was not my intention.

Funny you run your mouth about how I'm not on "other forums", but you can go to those other forums and read all about who bots and who doesn't, and even buy ISK.

You should be a "journalist" for Fox News.

In my last point I used a system in Pure as an example.. in between the time of me posting that and this I found another system in Fountain

22 jumps in the last 2 hours - 1469 NPC kills..

Again I am not saying somebody is botting but again do these kind of numbers warrant a Dev / GM to at very least investigate?

I don't know if you noticed this on your bot-hunting "affords" (note: it's spelled "effort"), but the bots are not gathered in any one single entity. There are bots in the Russian bloc, in CFC, in hisec, and where the sun don't shine. Money doesn't buy skill, though, so they aren't getting any combat "advantage", except maybe to alliance finances -- which advantages already don't matter since everyone bots.

The advantage they're getting is piles and piles of effort-free ISK -- spent on ships, PLEX, etc -- causing ISK to get devalued and inflation to be prevalent in Eve. That makes it hard for everyone to live.

Damn the EULA and all that crap. Want PLEX to be cheap again? Find and report a bot today.

Disliking it when people cheat doesn't make you a 'white knight.' Thats something that bot users just call people who play by the rules so they can feel like they aren't actually cheating or ruining the game.