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[EMERG] [TBI] Dr. Hilen Tukoss' Citizenship
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Frenjo Borkstar
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-03-06 14:59:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Frenjo Borkstar
Hello everyone!

Right, you've all heard the news about Dr. Hilen Tukoss being stripped of his citizenship.
This is an appauling decision, being made due to circumstances beyond Dr. Tukoss' control, which he is being held responsible for.

I am hereby granting him citizenship and asylum with The Borkstar Initiative, a sub-group of Lost Valkyries.
He therefore has a citizenship, and should be afforded all the rights and priviliges associated with that status.

If any of his rights are broken, the Sisters of EVE will be contacted for human rights assistance.

Thank you,
Dr. Frenjo Borkstar.

Viriel,

Borkstar Laboratories,

The Borkstar Initiative.
Foley Aberas Jones
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2015-03-06 15:18:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Foley Aberas Jones
Okay















.....Why do you need to put in this thread you giving him citizenship and asylum?

.....Who the **** cares that you are giving him citizenship and asylum? i don't think Hilen can even view the IGS, just send messages...
Kithrus
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2015-03-06 15:25:46 UTC
How about you find him first then worry about where he belongs.

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Jennifer Starfall
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#4 - 2015-03-06 15:48:36 UTC
Kithrus wrote:
How about you find him first then worry about where he belongs.


I agree. There are some gross assumptions in offering him asylum, like whether or not he's really Tukoss or not.

Zainou discarding him can't be a good sign. They never really discard anything. Either they're trying to discredit him, he's a crazy too crazy for the crazies, or he presents that much of a danger to Zainou interests or assets.

I'd keep a tight control on your hero worship there, Dr. Borkstar.

Jennifer Starfall

Fifth Seyllin Conference
Frenjo Borkstar
Doomheim
#5 - 2015-03-06 16:14:13 UTC
Jennifer Starfall wrote:
I'd keep a tight control on your hero worship there, Dr. Borkstar.


There's no hero worship involved, Dr. Tukoss is an important man, and he cannot be allowed to be condemned and discredited, especially due to the fact he's currently being held somewhere against his will by an unknown party.

This is a precautionary measure, to protect both Arek'Jaalan's interests, and Dr. Tukoss' should he be found and/or arrive back to safety.

Viriel,

Borkstar Laboratories,

The Borkstar Initiative.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2015-03-06 16:20:09 UTC
Neither Ishukone nor Zainou are stupid. This decision was made for a reason.

We're not privy to that reason, and I'd suggest that speculation is a waste of time. You either trust that two of the shrewdest organisations in New Eden know what they're doing, or you have the hubris to think you know better.

If it's the latter, well... good luck.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Feu dAstres
Nox Draconum Holding Corp
#7 - 2015-03-06 16:37:20 UTC
I would like to point out that Hilen Tukoss has been officially an employee of Eifyr and Co. for over 3 years.

Now that Ishukone and Zainou have officially released whatever claims they might have had, it is my opinion that Eifyr now has the role of sole employer ... and is a corporation under Minmatar law.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2015-03-06 16:40:02 UTC
Do corporations have the power to grant citizenship in Minmatar society?

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#9 - 2015-03-06 16:55:15 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
Do corporations have the power to grant citizenship in Minmatar society?

I think that's a uniquely Caldari thing, seeing as how corporate entity's are your government.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#10 - 2015-03-06 17:04:15 UTC
You have to be a government to be able to grant citizenship, Borkstar.

You also have to be someone that cares about human rights to protect them.
Frenjo Borkstar
Doomheim
#11 - 2015-03-06 17:12:18 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:
You have to be a government to be able to grant citizenship, Borkstar.

You also have to be someone that cares about human rights to protect them.


We act as a government in Anoikis for a few systems.

I also care deeply about human rights, when the situation suits me, of course.

Viriel,

Borkstar Laboratories,

The Borkstar Initiative.
Foley Aberas Jones
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2015-03-06 17:14:12 UTC
Frenjo Borkstar wrote:


We act as a government in Anoikis for a few systems.




Dude what
Karmilla Strife
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#13 - 2015-03-06 17:24:20 UTC
Do you have a flag?
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#14 - 2015-03-06 17:27:33 UTC
Obvious attempt at gaining corporate prestige through recruitment of a famous name is... obvious.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Foley Aberas Jones
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2015-03-06 17:34:25 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Obvious attempt at gaining corporate prestige through recruitment of a famous name is... obvious.



Hey theres nothing wrong with recruiting someone who is famous! a recruit is a recruit!





















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Frenjo Borkstar
Doomheim
#16 - 2015-03-06 17:44:01 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Obvious attempt at gaining corporate prestige through recruitment of a famous name is... obvious.


There's no attempt at corporate prestige. I have the interests of Arek'Jaalan and Dr. Tukoss in mind, nothing more.

Anything else is a bonus.

Viriel,

Borkstar Laboratories,

The Borkstar Initiative.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#17 - 2015-03-06 17:51:54 UTC
Frenjo Borkstar wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Obvious attempt at gaining corporate prestige through recruitment of a famous name is... obvious.


There's no attempt at corporate prestige. I have the interests of Arek'Jaalan and Dr. Tukoss in mind, nothing more.

Anything else is a bonus.

Hey man, it's cool. I've been trying to get that Gallente pop singer, Molly Serius, to join my corp for the media exposure. So far though, no dice....

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Korsavius
Revenent Defence Corperation
#18 - 2015-03-06 18:03:26 UTC
It's about time he was stripped of his citizenship.

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Kalaratiri
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#19 - 2015-03-06 18:06:20 UTC
Frenjo Borkstar wrote:
Jennifer Starfall wrote:
I'd keep a tight control on your hero worship there, Dr. Borkstar.


There's no hero worship involved, Dr. Tukoss is an important man, and he cannot be allowed to be condemned and discredited, especially due to the fact he's currently being held somewhere against his will by an unknown party.

This is a precautionary measure, to protect both Arek'Jaalan's interests, and Dr. Tukoss' should he be found and/or arrive back to safety.


For the record, are you claiming that just because a man has some influence or importance then he cannot be allowed to be criticized? That if someone is important that puts them completely above reproach? Because what?

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Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2015-03-06 19:03:16 UTC
Am I the only one surprised he still HAD citizenship?
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