Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I have no idea what to call the module, so I'll just describe it:

1. fits in high, low, or mid (let the devs decide...i don't know enough about the game to figure out where it would ideally go).


2. upon structure reaching 0, the module causes the ship to "self destruct" and does some area wide damage (can potentially destroy a BC.


3. upon structure reaching 0, the module causes all cargo/modules/etc. to destruct and become unlootable/unsalvagable.

The reason why someone would equip this module is for transportation.

The damage would cause all players/npcs (friend or foe) to take damage.

This would (possibly) force people to scan ships prior to indiscriminately blowing everything up that jumps through the gate. (rather than activating all modules and waiting to click on someone).

This would potentially cause a lowered sec status.

This module would not be triggered if killed by an NPC or sentry gun.


I'm sure 99.5% of everyone will say this is "carebear" or whatever it's called. It's just an idea. The other idea of course is to remove warp core stabs, cloaks, and make all locking instant w/o modules...oh and a 60 second align for all ships after jump...and all jumps are to 15km (that's what the people who call everyone "carebear" want anyway).

so now that the sarcasm is out of the way, "security" module?

This actually doesn't sound like too bad an idea. Make it an active module fit to a high slot (there are no damage-dealing mods for mids or lows). If activating it in hisec or lowsec, it should pop up the GCC warning. It slows you down enormously, similar to how a hictor slows when it bubbles up. When you reach 0 structure, there is a "smartbomb" effect along with your explosion. The damage could depend on your ship's mass or other such things.

The skill it would be linked to could lessen the chance of mods/cargo dropping by 10% per level, to a max of 100% chance of mod/cargo exploding with you.

True, stations could jam this stuff or something. But this would be great to have on gates against suicide gankers. Being yellow boxed? Hammer that mod and get it active, maybe kill the people shooting you. Feel uneasy about it because of how much sec status you'd lose by exploding on the Perimeter gate? Use an alternate route.

Ah I didn't think of a "smartbomb" term. What about if a player activates it and upon 0 structure it does a smartbomb effect (20km radius or something) with some damage formula such as (constant x overkill damage). i don't know how to explain overkill damage, but basically if you have 10 hp of structure left and you are hit for 1000 then you have 900 overkill damage. whatever the constant is (1, 10, 1k, 100k, whatever) that is what the constant multiplier is to the overkill damage.

This might not work though. I don't know. I guess the multiplier would have to be large enough to take down ships of large sizes.

Regarding the jita comment: as per one of the previous responders, it would have to be manually activated.

Also, I like the idea of a skill that trains to lessen the chance of mods/cargo dropping by 10% per level (i guess 20% though right? because 5 levels per skill? unless there are 2 skills like many of the skills).

Anyway, sorry that I don't know how to quote multiple people in the same response.

I like the ideas though because I don't know the mechanics of this game well enough, and other people have better insight.

This was the only correct part of your post, so lets let the devs decide.....
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The results are in and, YES! this isn't in the game because it is stupid! Congratulations to those developers, good job!

I like these kind of responses. Developers for nearly every MMO in existence get new ideas from their customers.

I'm all for making both carebears and PvPers use their heads more when flying.

However, my concern about the "uber-bomb" thing wouldn't be that people in a gatecamp would fire at it and they'd get owned because they didn't think before they fired. The concern is that there are 10 haulers and say, a Thrasher. A "fuse" ship, so to speak. When the fleet gets in range of a target, the Thrasher opens fire on its allied haulers, causing all of them to go up in a massive fireball. That's hardly counterable by anyone unfortunate enough to stand around. These bombs would need to be rather low damage to keep it balanced.

This could also be a "derp" for suicide gankers -- their killboards will fill up with more red of industrials being on their CONCORD lossmails because of this module.