EVE General Discussion

I can think of a few reasons.
1) There is no logic nor reasoning behind this change. Any argument put forward by the CSM or the others in this thread have been soundly thrashed, and nobody can give a reason as to why ISBoxer should be banned whilst other programs which offer tangible advantages are allowed.
2) There have been players banned who have followed the new interpretation of the EULA.
3) CCP Falcon promised, though a CSM member, a sit-down to occur soon after Jan1, and it has not happened and has been denied by CCP ever since.
4) We were told to open tickets to GMs to ask questions regarding our setups, only to be referred to this thread.
5) Upon receiving instructions to ask here, we post our questions here with additional comments regarding how the GM told us to post here.
6) CCP Falcon was just on a podcast telling people to open tickets, even though we just get redirected to the thread.

To name but a few....

e:

Here's that circular arguing I was talking about. I just got done explaining how rollovers are not breaking the EULA as an OS can be configured to focus a game window upon mouse-over.


So.... people with larger / multiple monitors shoud be banned because of the extra space they have? /sarcasm
If a player does have multiple 1-pixel wide squares, he would need to have a sufficiently high FPS on the client in order to activate them all upon mouse-over as the game may "skip" pixels in an attempt to keep up with the speed of a player's mouse.

And it's quite hard to post evidence of a ban as CCP has forbid posting any such information. Glad to see you cherry-pick and strawman though.

It is really so hard to belive? (I got 3 friends who got banned for rmt) they all got unbanned, its like. Ban first, ask questions later.

Edit: -.-

Ahh, through a CSM member.

Seems like someone got bait-and-switched.

Or more like bait and "eh did something happen?? *silence*"ed

why would that be a better to compare? Advantages are on account basis. Don't you like that outcome?

That's a "absence of evidence does not mean evidence of absence" fallacy. If enough people pressure them to rescind this preposterous rule, you'd be flooded with so much evidence you'd believe you were in Japan during the tsunami.


The opening post of this thread is proof of that. They've explicitly come out and said so. Any interpretation you have contrary to that is automatically invalid.[/quote]
Except for a few things:
1) They made no argument or statement attesting or supporting the (false) notion that ISBoxer breaks 6A3
2) That was an appeal to authority fallacy. Basically an example of an appeal to authority is "Because the government said the sky is green, it is green", although in this case it's CCP talking about a program which they have no knowledge or experience with other than they were told it was "pure ebil!" by one corebloodbrothers.
3) Just because CCP said something does not automatically make it true.
4) You *still* haven't given us any argument that ISBoxer breaks 6A3 as interpreted by CCP on a per-character basis, and I now owe my friend $20 from a bet on how long you would go before another fallacy.
5) INB4 "muh reaction times / muh pings": I already countered that argument up before, and you have yet to respond to my argument that the ISBoxer is put at a disadvantage due to the hardware limitations for ISBoxer causing moments of non-responsiveness.

I have a massive obelisk of stone. Unfortunately, I cannot bring it to where you are, due to restrictions of the building you are in currently, so you must either come to where I am or find some way to help me bring it to you. Taking pictures of the obelisk is allowed, but you have a security guard standing in front of your building that stops anyone from bringing these pictures in.

I'd love to know what "absurd conditions" you are referring to.

If anyone's demanding people take something on faith, it's you telling us to "Listen and Believe" when you try your best to argue that ISBoxer is Bad™. You keep dodging my arguments with the agility of a squirrel and you avoid any argument where you have no counterargument or logic to keep your ship afloat like a wino running away from an AA meeting, and you straw-man hard enough to make Dorothy ask you how to get back to Kansas.

The only reason I can see them continuing to disallow the posting of these tickets and conversations would be 1) to hide the fact that their GMs aren't on the same page as their Devs, and 2) so we can't hold them accountable for changes. Nice job cherry-picking my post though.

I was referring to the "absurd conditions" on the fleet comparisons, and you know it. Nice context fallacy.


Come over to the dual-boxing forum, post a thread asking for evidence, and await the replies or PMs. There is no force in the world preventing you from hopping over and saying "hi". I can just about guarantee you that you won't get banned for posting under a different name and asking for information. If we can get a CSM member over there, I don't see why you can't come over either. Heck, you may even learn something.

I'd like to take "I didn't read the thread" for 500, Alex!
In case you didn't read the thread, allow me to reiterate:
We were told by CCP to submit tickets asking about ISBoxer.
We submit these tickets.
GMs tell us to ask our questions in this thread.
We post in this thread.
CCP doesn't respond.

If CCP has a lack of GMs (or Devs) who play the game, I'd be more than happy to start working for them. I think it'd be a wonderful experience

If your boss posts an announcement regarding an office change, and tells you to go to HR with questions, you kinda expect HR to be able to answer the questions, not to tell you to go bother your boss. But when you *do* go back to your boss to ask him, his office is empty, the door is locked, the lights are off, and his car is gone. And he doesn't show up for five months.
e: Forgot to add that he promised to come into work after one month + a few days, but so far he hasn't shown up.
e2: And any attempt to take HR's statements and orders to talk to your boss anywhere means you might get fired.

Basically you got ganked by CCP's top skill: "never actually answer hard questions"