EVE General Discussion

Just space-bondage.

it is, if they want, if you don't wan't, don't join. simples.

Amazingly, none of those services need any information from the API at all in order to operate. It's simply a made up requirement because 'you need to prove you are trustworthy', while the directors never have to prove that you can trust them in return.
It's a one way street, feudalism, and it only works because most of the Null sec alliance members are sheep prepared to accept feudalism.

then why did you even bothered applying to them in the 1st place if from the start you don't even trust them already?

you're wierd dude....

you're fit ...

spie detected.

Yeah not that simple. This is Eve. When you get to the point that the alliance you built over a few years is throwing around hundreds of billions of isk worth of ships, one pissed off sperg leaking intel because he got called a name would ruin it all, and it couldn't be prevented because an API wasn't in hand to see said sperg mailing people about an OP to third party on.

Exactly!!!!

If you are the CEO, director or whomever is in charge of recruitment and cannot trust the new members why should they trust you?

Bingo!

Dito!

Any corp that fields capitals (and especially supers) will want your asset and transaction info, as that is a very easy way of catching careless/lazy spies.





Okay, so, recruitment officer for a medium-ish sized corp and alliance. Here is what we do, in basic terms, with APIs.

1. Full APIs are used for spy checking, pretty much exlusively. We don't, actually, care what assets you have, we just care that you didn't get 900m isk from Shadow Cartel to pay for your plex last month. It's not even terribly effective at catching spies, rather, it works as a deterrent. Because we DO check, people don't try, because it becomes more effort than it is worth. If we DIDN'T check, we would get flooded by spies. (See: Every high-sec scrub tier mission corp ever)

2. Partial APIs are used to "authorize" people for alliance services. This is essentially just your character sheet. This lets us link your access to services to your alliance membership. This way, when we have reason to hell-purge someone, or they leave the alliance for whatever reason, there is no need to manually remove access from 5+ different access lists. It also avoids the issue of security holes caused residual access from people, for example, getting jabber pings weeks after they left the alliance (this is a thing that happens, sometimes for months, for other alliances. Not us fortunately, we think).

That's it. That's all we use them for.


EDIT: Also, you CHOSE to trust your alliance leadership when you join an alliance. If you don't trust them, leave. They prove their trustworthiness by running a large, effective organization, and providing content and entertainment for hundreds or thousands of people. It's YOU whom other members of the organization have reason to distrust.

I would not wish to join any corp that demands to to be allowed to read my eve-mails about how well or not Ireland are doing in the 6 Nations, and they would not allow me to join unless they can read my eve-mails.

Works well for both parties really.