Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Yeah keep living in your bubble. If the mechanic is broken, the mechanic is broken. I enjoyed being self reliant when it comes to personal logistics. I do play with others, quite often. But why should I involve them in a personal project? Why should someone else be involved in my personal fitting operations. The point is that it is broken, and makes the game a less enjoyable experience.

Regardless you have lost a pilot from your own alliance. Enjoy the last few years of Eve, it is going to crap, and you do not deserve a seat on CSM X.

I have never seemed to have that problem. Anyhow I am out, Any further posts from this toon won't be me.

Jen, The problem is that every Corp or alliance wants a space to call their own. when you have Alliances that have hundreds of Corps, they will each want to spread out and each claim a system for themselves. This happens in Empire, Lowsec, Null, and J-Space. The simple fact is that New Eden isn't big enough for all of us.

So what do you do, you try to shrink everyone down into the same space, what you will get is less players playing. What should be done is an expansion of the number of regions. I would keep region sizes the same, and add 1 system for every 30 active capsuleers. Add 1 more Hi-sec Region, many more Null Regions and Alot more lowsec regions with or without FW, then add maybe another 250 systems to J-space. Then remove Jump Bridges and fatigue, keeping Jump ranges as they are.

Regardless everyone is entitled to their opinion. No one cares if Jenshae Chiroptera doesn't care.

I doubt that is the issue, respawns happen rapidly, I have lived in several regions of Null to Include Strain, Deklain, Providence, Catch, Branch and Tenal. Re-spawn of Rats and DED sites are not the Issue.

I have seen groups of supers, carriers, and T3 cruisers go through complex after complex to fund alliance events. I know that not all space was made the same, but this is an issue that CCP also needs to address. Even fixed, it does not mean that less space is more. It will just means that the playing field will be even between current Null blocks. However there needs to be more space to accommodate more entities entering Null. Once you have all of this fertile land, do you know what will happen. Null will have a surge of players coming out to play in it in all blocks. Each group will Expand as these groups go out to create a home for themselves, likely within an existing block. There is no reason to constrain movement when movement isn't the issue. The Issue is the Imbalance within regions and NPC faction loot. Allot of this was due to now gone GM's playing favoritism in the drop tables for their alliances space.


As much as I disliked our Goon Overlords, I had the best time residing in branch from 2008-2010. My time in Nulli Secunda, was complete crap as it was impossible to fund SRP and Events. And I didn't have much time to enjoy Provi as the changes from Pheobe just ruined my mood to play much less log in.

Then we are in agreement that Eve needs to re-balance all of the Null resources.

Second, if this does work, then what is the glue that holds the CFC together. They reached critical mass years ago and still managed to continue growing. They are led by very organized leaders but despite having several hotheads and their own brand of psychopaths. How do they manage to hold such a diverse grouping of people together?

Third, why do we need to to penalize individuals jumps as much as group jumps. Why not add decay to system's ability to support a cyno after so much mass has jumped. Exact same mechanic used currently for wormholes would work. Yes you could have 4 max size fleets cynoing in at 4 different systems, but wouldn't this affect projection while allowing more groups to go to battle and doesn't limit anyone to fighting only at their neighbors house. I preferred massive 7 way battles that maxed out TIDI where groups came from all over eve for a fight with everything they had.

There not being an infinite amount of people who actually live or want to live in null, that's an odd assumption. Namely that if large groups are mechanically forced to live in compact areas though harsh activity based sov, that the majority of groups would choose to compact down to groups of systems near potential enemies.

I would consider it far more likely that the competent groups would compact down to a certain degree, but set up a DMZ belt around them where they burn to the ground any other unfriendly inhabitants attempts to live there.

Holding more space than you absolutely require allows you to have strategic depth so that you have non critical systems bordering your enemies, a measure of protection from titan or Blops bridged fleets due to physical LY distance, and shields your primary PvE systems from being close to your enemies. It allows you to set up space control through JB's so that you have more operational mobility within your space compared to anyone invading or roaming through.

As the impact of Blops and titan bridges is highly dependent on how much coverage of your enemies systems you can achieve, scrunching large numbers of people down into small clusters of systems and permitting your enemies to live nearby is a good way to get all your systems threatened 24/7 with the shadow of sudden Blops and Titan bridge fleets. The more space you have, the more enemies it takes to achieve meaningful coverage of an area.

I'm also not sure (lets be serious, I'm entirely sure it's not) it's a good idea to try and use game mechanics to force all groups into such small spaces so that there is empty space for anyone to step into anytime they want. If space is in nearly no way a limited resource, what's the point of fighting over it?

You know what will happen.......nothing.

The coalitions would just move in and rent it out. There is no one big enough to fight them and their renters are too afraid to say no.

What needs to happen is the renters need to start fighting for their system(s) instead of paying rent.



p.s. I may not agree with Jen but I applaud the effort to be active and pose questions opening up dialogue.

With the upcoming SOV changes, I see it playing out like this:

- Loads of flies swarming around and triggering all the SOV things they can reach.
- Alliances pulling back into choke points so they can swat the flies.
- Alliances realise they can't support all their members, so they kick the useless ones out.
- The useless ones realise they are institutionalised and no one wants them, they are scared of High Sec so they quit the game.

I think this thread is more necessary for consideration, more than ever.

Perhaps rats can be a growing problem, at gates, stations, POCOs, if they are kept at bay and destroyed in anomolies.
So, then SOV owners give our LP to keep systems clear.
The LP is then used as a type of SRP program subsidising ships, modules and ammos that the SOV owners put up for sale in their trade hubs.

The rates would have to be up to the SOV owners so they can fluctuate with the markets.

I would like team / squad anomolies put in for:

- less overall anomolies.
- people getting used to roles and working together.
- people being more confident and battle ready to repell intruders.