Intergalactic Summit

Obviously, you haven't met Synthia yet.

Ms. Rella.. Unfortunately.. At one time in a physical capacity.. Yes, we did, we owned the Minmatar through conquest, no different to how most of the empires gather there bloodlines.. What is different is how we treated them.. Which unfortunately has marred your view of our people.. But, we have since started treating the slaves we have much better, even more so then some Caldari Mega-corporations, depending on the world and holder, I know you may see it differently.. And for that i do not believe i can change, but i have seen what the good the empire is capable of.. And it has a vision that is more then the sum of it’s parts.. Lucas told me that once.. Also you must remember, that He owns all, His divine light touches all who welcome it.

And yes, I am comparing it to Caldari taking their home world, they want what was theirs, after they were driven out, which is something they have every right to do, but they were forced from there homes.. And you are wrong about our people. we had Amarrians living all over the cluster, even far into what is now Republic space, on planets the Minmatar had no claim to before, and yes, we invaded you, correct, you were apart of one of our spheres of colonisation, but please.. You keep saying it as if all Amarrian’s were holders and we all whipped you.. Not all Amarrian’s were as you picture and say it is, some cared for their slaves, while some treated them.. Not as how a person of Gods realm should have.. We have since corrected this as i have stated, slaves are unfortunately still called as such because the empires keep saying they are as such, but most are helping hands, workers, in all aspects of Amarr life, and not all are Minmatar Ms. Rella.. I have met people from all of the 4 empires who have join His faith, even a few ex pirates seeking redemption.. I do truly believe that if Emperor Heirderan was Emperor before the rebellion.. You would see us in a different light.. But that time has past..

And I see no disagreement.. That is exactly what i said about the reclaiming just with better use of words.. I am a warrior Ms. Rella, so forgive me if my words do no carry on as intended, but that is exactly what i said of the Reclaiming, it does not have to be aggressive, it is any effort that brings more into His light, a Reclaiming could be a fleet of Battleships destroying those who seek to destroy His light, or it could be a simple preacher traveling to the boarder systems and sharing His light with those in need, as sister Kernher has said, it is by word if we can, laser if we must..

Thank you Ms. Rella, I am not trying to do that either, I hope you know that, all i want is peace in His kingdom, not bloodshed.. And i can not do as you ask.. Remember, we grew up on 2 sides of the fence, as you would say, we have 2 different views, I guess due to Lucas raising me most of my life i have a different angel at which i view things.. But the Amarr empire is capable of great compassion, great sacrifice, and great things, to hold us at our past will make sure that the future can not happen, i do not see it the same way you do, and i never will, as i was on the other side, though i can not attempt the force you to see things my way, however i do believe we should stop disrupting this thread, yes? I will be in contact with you shortly Ms. Rella.

Also, thank you sister Mithra, i am glad you understand i am not as good with words as most, i hope to meet you one day.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21

Humble regards, Eli Sariah

Sorry, no. Our Federated Union was formed on Gallente Prime and others joined us voluntarily. Even the Caldari joined the Federation. The circumstances of their secession, and actions by extremists on both sides were tragic... but they are not representative of the history of either people. There are similarities between Amarr and Gallente in that aspects of our societies have appeal to other cultures, but that does not make the method of cultural export in any way similar.

Where is the ongoing unprovoked invasion? Where's that ongoing genocide? Where's The ongoing forced religious conversions and cultural imperialism? You claiming that all there are ongoing doesn't make it so: Using capslocks doesn't let you seem any more convincing.

In dealing with other nations, the Empire has, since the founding of CONCORD, only used force in self-defence. There might be some elements that still slip through the cracks and try to go by the old ways, but it'd be hypocritical to criticise us for that after how the Republic used money for economic development to found the Elder fleet, with the aim of attacking CONCORD first and then the Empire, no? Or is that all OK, bcause it can't be unjust, what must be just?

I don't need to dress a fedo into fine silks. Fedos are in general a Minmatarian thing.

So, yes, I am proud of the Amarrian heritage. I have no problem with admitting Amarrian imperialism and expansionism. I don't have a vested interest, though in doing it by force. That's why I have no problem with pointing out that both Lt. Kernher and Cpt. Sariah said the same thing: That reclaiming by force, in regard to civilized entities outside the Empire (that is, CONCORD signatories) has come to an end with the formation of CONCORD.

(I hope you don't want to say you are allowed to meddle in internal imperial matters, but at the same time that we are not in regard to the Republic? If not, good, then I don't need to make the case for what happens inside the Empire's borders to imperial subjects. If you do wantr to say that, I hope you notice the problems of the position by yourself.)

You on the other hand seem to have a vested interest to show that it is part and parcel of the Amarrian imerialism/expansionism that it happens by force.

Well, it is not. The end is greater than the means.

Is Lord the proper form of address? In regard to capsuleers I go with 'Captain' unless another form is obvious, as that's what capsuleers are usually addressed as, being pilot and captain of their ship.

If I've mistaken you, then please, by all means clarify.

What I read was you quoting Captain Rella's statement referencing "Reclaiming" by genocide, forced conversion ect and then asking the question "Isn't that what the Federation does every day?"

No. It isn't the same.

Cpt. Farel spoke of cultural export. I don't know how you read 'genocide comitted by the Amarr' into the "export Abel Jareks" is quite wondrous. (But maybe you didn't read past the first sentence?) The point she made is: The vast majority - if not all - of the 'cultural export' of the Empire is as little in the way of "genocide, forced conversion etc." as that of the Federation, nowadays.

The Amarr markets and their home world can be a beautiful place, however it can also be a hard place to leave if you have certain 'scars' as you put it with your ship. I wish you well in helping those that did not have the good sense not to go after the Jove and to not enslave race after race because they were told to. Everyone knows they need it.

If you find happiness there I wish you well, but the brochure is rarely as good as the actual location and idealization of that society rarely holds up as soon as the sun stops shinning on their gold cities. Then you start to see what they are really about, the enslaved masses and the slave compounds with vitoic laced water supplies; which were once hidden by that glorious golden glare of the reflected sun.

Oh and stay out of Khanid space, its a silly place.

Ha.

You should know better than to put facts and first hand experience in a gut feeling debate.