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Need Gila Fit for high sec combat exploration

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Janey T'gahl
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-03-02 20:10:14 UTC
Been looking for the perfect (well, not perfect, I'd rather not have a 1 billion fit) fit for my new GIla. Intended use = high sec combat exploration.
Nycha
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2015-03-02 20:32:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Nycha
[Gila, Gila passive 1b]

Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Shield Power Relay II

Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Thermic Dissipation Field II
EM Ward Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Precision Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Precision Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Precision Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Precision Light Missile

Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II

Hammerhead II x2
Federation Navy Hammerhead x2
Caldari Navy Vespa x2

You can also use an active tank on the gila with similar values. The drones are just for some evehq tests, use something different if you like.
Janey T'gahl
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-03-02 20:38:00 UTC
Nycha wrote:
[Gila, Gila passive 1b]

Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Shield Power Relay II

Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Thermic Dissipation Field II
EM Ward Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Precision Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Precision Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Precision Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Precision Light Missile

Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II

Hammerhead II x2
Federation Navy Hammerhead x2
Caldari Navy Vespa x2

You can also use an active tank on the gila with similar values. The drones are just for some evehq tests, use something different if you like.



Great! :) I'm using shield boost implants, so an active tank would be awesome :) Guessing I would switch the shield extenders for a small/medium shield booster and a shield boost amplifier?
Nycha
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2015-03-02 20:52:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Nycha
[Gila, active speedtank t2 1b]

Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Damage Control II

10MN Afterburner II
Gistum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
Gistum B-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Gistum B-Type Thermic Dissipation Amplifier
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Capacitor Battery II

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Precision Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Precision Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Precision Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Precision Light Missile
Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe

Medium Core Defense Operational Solidifier II
Medium Core Defense Operational Solidifier I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Hammerhead II x2

The active version is more uncommon, more expensive and harder to fit. The advantage is that you can speedtank the whole time with a smaller signature, but not sure if its worth it. In the end Im simply using the passive version like everyone else and save the isks.
Actually Im using a stratios as I dont like melee combat.
Janey T'gahl
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2015-03-02 20:56:57 UTC
Nycha wrote:
[Gila, active speedtank t2 1b]

Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Damage Control II

10MN Afterburner II
Gistum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
Gistum B-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Gistum B-Type Thermic Dissipation Amplifier
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Capacitor Battery II

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Precision Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Precision Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Precision Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Precision Light Missile
Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe

Medium Core Defense Operational Solidifier II
Medium Core Defense Operational Solidifier I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Hammerhead II x2

The active version is more uncommon, more expensive and harder to fit. The advantage is that you can speedtank the whole time with a smaller signature, but not sure if its worth it. In the end Im simply using the passive version like everyone else and save the isks.
Actually Im using a stratios as I dont like melee combat.
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Tnanks :) Aiming for either the Stratios or possibly a Tengu in the future. Both ships are roughly 18 days away from me, still can't decide which one to get :)

On the Gila note, eventough I have shield implants, maybe I should go for the passive tank?
Paranoid Loyd
#6 - 2015-03-02 21:07:05 UTC
Janey T'gahl wrote:

On the Gila note, eventough I have shield implants, maybe I should go for the passive tank?
Yes stick with passive.

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Nycha
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2015-03-02 21:15:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Nycha
Go for the passive one. Its pretty cheap and you get a ship which can do (theoretically) 800dps with a 300++dps tank (lv5 skills). Practically the damage is way less but still impressive.
I dont own a tengu so I cant comment. Strat is a very good alround ship with plenty of different fitting options, for example I can do the same like the gila but with geckos. Or shoot with lazors or whatever. Gila is pretty onesided.
Orlacc
#8 - 2015-03-02 23:21:08 UTC
Passive for your application will work fine.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."

Alhira Katserna
Deep Space Exploration And Exploitation
#9 - 2015-03-03 03:40:26 UTC
Janey T'gahl wrote:
Tnanks :) Aiming for either the Stratios or possibly a Tengu in the future. Both ships are roughly 18 days away from me, still can't decide which one to get :)

On the Gila note, eventough I have shield implants, maybe I should go for the passive tank?



Aim for the Stratios especially if you wanna do highsec combat sites as T3s are mostly forbidden to enter the highsec sites (except the 4/10 but don“t quote me on that as i have no T3 atm). If you do only combat sites it is for sure possible to make a passable shield tank but if you consider a general exploration stratios (for hacking too) then you maybe want to go for armor tank.
Janey T'gahl
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2015-03-03 13:16:48 UTC
Nycha wrote:
Go for the passive one. Its pretty cheap and you get a ship which can do (theoretically) 800dps with a 300++dps tank (lv5 skills). Practically the damage is way less but still impressive.
I dont own a tengu so I cant comment. Strat is a very good alround ship with plenty of different fitting options, for example I can do the same like the gila but with geckos. Or shoot with lazors or whatever. Gila is pretty onesided.



Yeah, the Stratios would be a nice ship to fly, but I would need to direct my training to be able to fly it. About 10 days.
Janey T'gahl
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2015-03-03 14:49:39 UTC
Oh, by the way. If you add the factor of pvp, would the active shield tank be better than the passive?
Aerie Evingod
Midwest Miners LLC
#12 - 2015-03-03 18:19:12 UTC
If you PvP in a PvE fit Gila (or just about any ship for that matter) you will blow up in short order.

A Gila is overkill for high sec combat sites.
Janey T'gahl
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2015-03-03 18:32:56 UTC
Aerie Evingod wrote:
If you PvP in a PvE fit Gila (or just about any ship for that matter) you will blow up in short order.

A Gila is overkill for high sec combat sites.



I wasn't referring to actively searching for combat, more the defensive kind if I get jumped while exploring :) Going to try the Gila in 0.4-0.5 systems
Iwo Sh'ivah
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2015-03-03 20:17:52 UTC
Here's what i use and it works perfectly. Imo AB is too slow (competition is mostly on MWD so it's crucial to run sites fast and get close to overseers before someone jumps in and gets the loot first) + extra scan strenght is always good. Dps 780, tank 67ehp.


[Gila, New passive MWD]
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

10MN Microwarpdrive II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Pith B-Type Thermic Dissipation Field
Gist A-Type Kinetic Deflection Field

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Heavy Missile
Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe

Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I

'Augmented' Hammerhead x2
Janey T'gahl
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2015-03-03 20:46:24 UTC
Iwo Sh'ivah wrote:
Here's what i use and it works perfectly. Imo AB is too slow (competition is mostly on MWD so it's crucial to run sites fast and get close to overseers before someone jumps in and gets the loot first) + extra scan strenght is always good. Dps 780, tank 67ehp.


[Gila, New passive MWD]
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

10MN Microwarpdrive II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Pith B-Type Thermic Dissipation Field
Gist A-Type Kinetic Deflection Field

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Heavy Missile
Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe

Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I

'Augmented' Hammerhead x2


hmm, adding that exact setup in eft, I get 799 dps, but only 40, 356 EHP with all skills on V. What did I do wrong?
Iwo Sh'ivah
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2015-03-03 20:53:01 UTC
Thats uniform damage and i posted Serpentis. My uniform is also at 40k.
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#17 - 2015-03-03 20:58:08 UTC
I personally use a Svipul for hisec exploration.
ggodhsup
relocation LLC.
#18 - 2015-03-26 22:40:16 UTC
Aerie Evingod wrote:


A Gila is overkill for high sec combat sites.


just ran a serpentis 4/10 in low-sec with a pvp fitted scythe fleet issue without a single problem. gila is way too much for high-sec sites, i would say almost any...any t1 cruiser would run high-sec sites.

a caracal would be my first choice, it will also not attract the attention that the gila will.

even more so, spend half what the gila costs on some blingy fittings and blitz high-sec sites like a boss.

then again, i just bought a stratios for my exploration highjinks. (i do mine in low and null)
Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
#19 - 2015-03-27 02:19:21 UTC
There is no such thing as overkill for hisec combat sites. You want to outperform all the other explorers running around. I suggest a MWD and a warp disruptor/scram.

[Gila, hisex]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Damage Control II

Warp Disruptor II
Gistum C-Type 10MN Microwarpdrive
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Pithum C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Sisters Core Probe Launcher

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II

Valkyrie II x2
Infiltrator II x2
Vespa II x2
Hammerhead II x2

Scourge Light Missile x3000
Inferno Fury Light Missile x500
Sisters Core Scanner Probe x16

For lowsec I would use something cheaper, or a Stratios. Or a Tengu if you don't mind being locked out of 4/10s.

By the way, nice last name, T'gahl. I wonder if we are related. :)
Nycha
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2015-03-27 06:14:38 UTC
Whats the reason for a disruptor/scram in highsec exploration sites?
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