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Thonys Visser
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-03-03 14:12:13 UTC
Hi Capsuleers,

I was wandering ...
why a dedicated mining vessel like the Orca (what is a industrial ship)

does not have his own special Orca strip miner

it can do various tasks, but mining is a no go aria
it can boost
ik can ship vessels
has a huge cargo hold
can fit a lot of goody stuf ,
but a strip miner is a thing the builders never heard of

it can allready use mining drones
and when you use a strip miner on that vessel it can not give boost to others,
just one orca strip miner is that so much to ask for ??on a ore ship,

used for boosting miners
and is in general use for mining

it is a industrial ship
why not use it as a industrial ship
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#2 - 2015-03-03 14:13:16 UTC
The Orca is not a dedicated mining vessel. It's a dedicated industrial command vessel.

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Thonys Visser
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2015-03-03 14:20:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Thonys Visser
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
The Orca is not a dedicated mining vessel. It's a dedicated industrial command vessel.


sure but you can use a catalyst with mining lasers.... for mining..... so ,it is not impossible
Winters Chill
Unitas Incorporated
#4 - 2015-03-03 14:40:18 UTC
Wait until medium mining drones are out then you can mine in your flying pinyata until your heart is satisfied.
NovaCat13
Ember Interstellar Inc.
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#5 - 2015-03-03 14:43:28 UTC
Thonys Visser wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
The Orca is not a dedicated mining vessel. It's a dedicated industrial command vessel.


sure but you can use a catalyst with mining lasers.... for mining..... so ,it is not impossible


Lots of things can use mining drones, a few can boost, doesn't make the Proteus a dedicated mining ship. Also it's kind of the same reason the Space Shuttle isn't actually a good idea, if you need to haul, get a hauler, if you need to simply send people into space send something smaller.

Let actual dedicated mining vessels mine.

Just say NO to Dailies
Alexei Stryker
Council of Stellar Erections
#6 - 2015-03-03 14:46:10 UTC
Mining in a Rokh was a great idea back then
Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#7 - 2015-03-03 14:51:19 UTC
CCP is saving you the trouble from getting ganked in a mining Orca. You should be thankful.

-k8

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Zealous Miner
Doomheim
#8 - 2015-03-03 14:53:07 UTC
It's not designed to mine. It's designed to facilitate the mining of others.

Quite frankly there's no room on the ship for the systems to support a mining laser (much less a strip miner) or the processing and loading systems that would need to go with said laser. The whole ship is basically a command deck welded to a bunch of cargo holds and a spacious area to serve as a maintenance bay for other ships.

There's no room for mining lasers and strip miners.

Fedo. Fedo? Fedo!
Thonys Visser
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2015-03-03 14:58:57 UTC
Zealous Miner wrote:
It's not designed to mine. It's designed to facilitate the mining of others.

Quite frankly there's no room on the ship for the systems to support a mining laser (much less a strip miner) or the processing and loading systems that would need to go with said laser. The whole ship is basically a command deck welded to a bunch of cargo holds and a spacious area to serve as a maintenance bay for other ships.

There's no room for mining lasers and strip miners.


i have ONE account :))
Zealous Miner
Doomheim
#10 - 2015-03-03 15:04:54 UTC
Thonys Visser wrote:

i have ONE account :))


Then use it as a fleet booster for others and charge members a portion of their ore for your services or hop into a Mining Barge and have someone else act as the commander.

The Orca is designed for large mining operations with a fleet of mining ships. It's not a ship for lone wolves to mine in.

Fedo. Fedo? Fedo!
Thonys Visser
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2015-03-03 15:06:03 UTC
Commissar Kate wrote:
CCP is saving you the trouble from getting ganked in a mining Orca. You should be thankful.


So I must be thankfull ?

And who is paying their bills ?
perhaps i want something in return also...
if you have one account you can t do both..mining and boosting
retrievers are ganked by the numbers and i do not even mention covetors
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#12 - 2015-03-03 15:07:15 UTC
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Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#13 - 2015-03-03 15:11:32 UTC
Thonys Visser wrote:
Zealous Miner wrote:
It's not designed to mine. It's designed to facilitate the mining of others.

Quite frankly there's no room on the ship for the systems to support a mining laser (much less a strip miner) or the processing and loading systems that would need to go with said laser. The whole ship is basically a command deck welded to a bunch of cargo holds and a spacious area to serve as a maintenance bay for other ships.

There's no room for mining lasers and strip miners.


i have ONE account :))


good for you.
if people could mine in an orca decently enough it wouldn't be just you doing it, it would be done in mass and I would love for my orca which can hold about 179km3 to be able to mine like a barge. we have enough of an overflow problem with industry as there are people with many alts mining and building so much at 1 time. several people have commented on the ridiculous amount of ships and other things they can build with their alts.

more people need to have only 1 character instead of the game going by "you want to do something else, get another account"

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Thonys Visser
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2015-03-03 15:18:29 UTC
Agondray wrote:
Thonys Visser wrote:
Zealous Miner wrote:
It's not designed to mine. It's designed to facilitate the mining of others.

Quite frankly there's no room on the ship for the systems to support a mining laser (much less a strip miner) or the processing and loading systems that would need to go with said laser. The whole ship is basically a command deck welded to a bunch of cargo holds and a spacious area to serve as a maintenance bay for other ships.

There's no room for mining lasers and strip miners.


i have ONE account :))


good for you.
if people could mine in an orca decently enough it wouldn't be just you doing it, it would be done in mass and I would love for my orca which can hold about 179km3 to be able to mine like a barge. we have enough of an overflow problem with industry as there are people with many alts mining and building so much at 1 time. several people have commented on the ridiculous amount of ships and other things they can build with their alts.

more people need to have only 1 character instead of the game going by "you want to do something else, get another account"


there could be a solution

Or use one account and your first alt can boost
that more practical also

its all about the money is it...

well not for me ..
one account is enough
Zimmer Jones
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2015-03-03 15:19:10 UTC
Thonys Visser wrote:
Commissar Kate wrote:
CCP is saving you the trouble from getting ganked in a mining Orca. You should be thankful.


So I must be thankfull ?

And who is paying their bills ?
perhaps i want something in return also...
if you have one account you can t do both..mining and boosting
retrievers are ganked by the numbers and i do not even mention covetors


Everyone is paying the bills, and people that multibox pay more bills than you.

Eve is a multiplayer game, and bonuses are meant for groups of people.
Fleet bonuses are there to promote group behavior, not boost lone wolves.
You are entitled to nothing.

As you must be new; welcome to eve, I hope you enjoy your stay

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Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#16 - 2015-03-03 15:22:32 UTC
Yeah its definitely not a mining vessel.

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Thonys Visser
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2015-03-03 15:35:36 UTC
Zimmer Jones wrote:
Thonys Visser wrote:
Commissar Kate wrote:
CCP is saving you the trouble from getting ganked in a mining Orca. You should be thankful.


So I must be thankfull ?

And who is paying their bills ?
perhaps i want something in return also...
if you have one account you can t do both..mining and boosting
retrievers are ganked by the numbers and i do not even mention covetors


Everyone is paying the bills, and people that multibox pay more bills than you.

Eve is a multiplayer game, and bonuses are meant for groups of people.
Fleet bonuses are there to promote group behavior, not boost lone wolves.
You are entitled to nothing.

As you must be new; welcome to eve, I hope you enjoy your stay


you call me a "lone wolve" because i have ONE account ..(is that what you mean,)
and i do not pay? , i pay to, i never have had the chance to get a plex (i live in HS)

well thank you...
Celise Katelo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2015-03-03 15:41:50 UTC
Skill train into something else, perhaps!!!

Or... sell the Orca or give it away, if you don't intend to use it for what it's actually good for Shocked

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Thonys Visser
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2015-03-03 15:48:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Thonys Visser
Celise Katelo wrote:
Skill train into something else, perhaps!!!

Or... sell the Orca or give it away, if you don't intend to use it for what it's actually good for Shocked


understood,

but is it not asking a judge..... to go driving a mini van instead ....

it is all about possibilities

dont think personal..... think about the game
Discomanco
We pooped on your lawn
#20 - 2015-03-03 16:03:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Discomanco
Thonys Visser wrote:
Celise Katelo wrote:
Skill train into something else, perhaps!!!

Or... sell the Orca or give it away, if you don't intend to use it for what it's actually good for Shocked


understood,

but is it not asking a judge..... to go driving a mini van instead ....

it is all about possibilities

dont think personal..... think about the game

Oh we are, but Orca has its role, and it's doing that role very well.
No need to make it a All-in-one mining ship. All it would need is a compression array

EDIT: Oh, and isn't it also quite personal thinking to want to use a Fleet designed ship as a Solo ship?
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