Intergalactic Summit

If I'm going to offer even a rough sketch, then, I'd better get to sketching.

True enough.

Dam-Torsad is actually a marvellous place.

It is beautiful, but every line there betrays the alien mindset of people who built it with the single idea in mind, like a peculiar ant species motivated by the Rouvenor-era music and lots of gold foil.

It proves that there is no need for true aliens in New Eden as long as we can't understand the core concepts that define our lives.

Perhaps, the Awakened Tyrants will help us?

hehe

To most of the rest of civilization, the use of slave labor does decrease the value of something. They seem to have this notion that work done with ones own, two hands is somehow more pure than work that is skillfully directed. That the efforts of slave and master are for naught compared with societies that eschew slavery.

I believe Ms. Jenneth is originally from such a culture. I just wanted to remind her that while she may be enjoying the fruits of the Empire, she should be mindful that her enjoyment might interfere with her own personal morals and ethics. The food she eats is produced by slaves. The air she breathes in a station and the artificial gravity, the heating and cooling, are all provided by the toil of slaves. The money she spends and the taxes collected go to further a system that supports the ownership of one human by another. But if she's ok with that, so be it.

I take great pride in my service Ms. Kernher. I am blessed to be a part of something greater than myself. I am blessed to be a favored slave of God and I strive every day to bring my fellow Amarr closer to His service.

Thank you for explaining your remarks, Mr. Zateki.

Now, let me explain my position.

No, the Caldari do not use slaves. However, they also don't try to tell other peoples and cultures what is "right" for them (though they also aren't over-careful about treading on toes).

This applies, if anything, even more strongly to my own faith and sect (and we are careful about treading on toes, partly because most people, including the State, are bigger than we are).

I fully expect and will accept these kinds of critical remarks from the Matari. Even if they're not universalists, strong moral objection to slavery is part of their own culture. Probably, if and when I visit them, we're going to have a lot of maybe rather heated conversations on the subject, given my present sojourn with the Amarr.

They've got the standing to try and prick my conscience on this subject.

You don't.

Kindly stop trying to derail my work just because you don't like the topic.

Please forgive me, Ms Mithra, but I think Ms Ikiryo specifically said that flower roots are distinguishable from each other mostly by experts... I believe this is true, at least from my own experience. I do not doubt that with a bit of work and knowledge, it becomes all clear - and please believe that I really like studying plants, but I am no expert in botanical matters, so to me, at first glance at least, it would be hard to tell.

If you give me a book talking about the matter, I should be able to correct that, of course.

Albizu Zateki, you are a Sani Sabik, a traitor to the Amarr empire, a heretic in His light, and a betrayer of your former brothers and sisters, you are nothing but a blood sucker, and a coward at that, who attacks innocents in there homes for your.. Harvesting, you, do not have a right to speak of another peoples, and on that note, let me point out somethings for you, whelp.

The Amarr empire has a.. Questionable history to outsiders, you see us as slave runners, and monsters, but let us look at this from a different perspective since you are all so quick to judge the Amarr on our past..

The Amarr empire has slaves, yes, these range from people who came willingly, ex-convicts who were given a choice, and people who were born into it, we do not go on raids for new slave “stock”, those days are gone (Though i have heard of blackmarket operations, but as with all empires this is the case), they are the past despite what you and other outsides believe and say without reason or proof, and on the topic of slaves, i take it you have at least heard of Heideran VII? One of our greatest Emperors? Who made it decreed that all slaves were to be looked after and treated fairly? If not, i suggest you take a moment to have a small history lesson sometime soon before you make baseless allegations about my people, we treat our slaves a far sight better then, for example, some of the Caldari Mega-corporations have been known to treat their people, we feed, clothe, teach and give purpose to our slaves, they are God’s people too, as are all who seek His righteous path, how do i know this? I have known people to choose this path, for the simplicity, for the humble and simple life, and they do not look back, so do not judge my people on a past we have since changed, and as for Dam-Torsad, you heretic, was built by our own, was built on the backs of those of Amarr prime, long before we took to heavens to bring His light to all.

And on your comment to Ms. Jenneth, the food she eats is most like prepared by an Amarrian chief, unless Dam-Torsad has changed since last night, Amarrians still work, slaves do not to all of it, there are several Amarrian chiefs i have had the privilege of meeting, even a few proud slaves and employees that work along side them as equals, the butchers are Amarrian, the herders are Amarrian, the slaves you are talking about are better viewed as helping hands, it is also important to remember that not all Amarrian’s use slaves, a lot just have employees, or even do the work themselves, i highly doubt your closed mind can work that out blood sucker, my old slave served and protected me even when he could of left and run, he had no reason to stay and yet he did, and when I asked him, he merely said because he chose as such, so do not act like you know the slaves, do not act like you care either, some are noble people, all things held, and proud of what they do, there is pride in a days work, whether it be as a soldier, a cook, a slave, a farmhand, a politic, a pilot, we are all a part of the Amarr, empire, we are all it’s people.

Your people threw away His glorious light to become murderers, pirates, thieves, and traitors, you do not have the right, yet alone the mind to speak of the Amarr and it’s proud people and history.

Also, lady Kernher, you are correct, my home was not far from one of the temples of old, they are indeed beautiful, their intricate carvings and monuments to His will, and His people, they are relics just as important as any other, and they give my old home it’s history and character.

And lord Kithrus, you are of course correct, but as is lady Kernher, but, what you are forgetting, mainly directed at the lady, these where Amarrian’s, they were what are now, our people, the slave, the noblemen, the holder and all, this is important to remember, as Dam-Torsad was build on the backs of those of Amarr prime.

All i wish is that you give the Amarr empire a chance, not continue to live off the lies and “darkness” as i have heard some say from the old days, look at what we are now, what we stand for now, if not, then you have no right to speak against it, i have learnt of the other empires, i have travelled their cities, i have meet their people, i have seen what they are capable of, and what they stand for, and you do not see me shooting allegations around without knowing the full history, past and present, so open your eyes and minds like you wish others to do when looking at your people, beliefs, and history.. I know many Caldari, that have taught me discipline and honour, i have met Gallente citizens that have taught me diplomacy, fairness, and equality, i have even spoken to Minmatar, and learnt their pride, their strength, I do not judge them, for i have seen what they are capable of, i have spent the time to learn what they, in essence, are.. I suggest you do the same

The Amarr empire is more then the sum of it’s parts.. It is an ideal, a shining beacon of His divine light, and i will protect it, both it’s ideals and it’s people, until i am no more, but till then, i will carry this mantle proudly, you have to defend what you want to maintain, we are His warriors and His people, we fight and live for more then our leaders, for more then a paycheque or favour, we fight, live, and die, for Him and our people.. Remember this..

"We are brothers,' Zakara answered, just before breathing his last. 'And in God we shall remain brothers for all of time." - The Scriptures, Saint Junip 10:25

Humble regards, Eli Sariah

I apologize sister, i am used to the Academy and being around my peers, please accept my apologies, i did not mean to offend.

Humble regards, Eli Sariah

A lot of pretty words you posted Pilot Sariah but unless and until your people give up the idea of forcibly converting and subsuming (or outright destroying) other cultures you'll never be seen as anything but conquerors to be resisted at all costs and by any means necessary.

Once again you are focusing on the past, i might add that we are not the only people to attempt to crush another out of existence or to seek to control or change them, and also, on that note, when was the last time we attempted to conqueror another peoples? I believe the Caldari and Gallente are currently trying to do that.. So your argument, as i heard a Caldari friend once say, fell out of the sky, so, as i stated before, until you are able to look at the present, and not the past, you can never see it as it is, the past is the past, nothing can change that, only a fool would think otherwise, but our present determines are future, and all I want is peace in the cluster, and no, that does not mean i wish to crush all other peoples, it means i wish for peace, and if people want to join His divine path, then they will be welcomed, i do not believe in forcing ones belief on another, which we do not do, so I do not know where you information is coming from, but once again, i am going to assume the past and thus baseless.

Also.. Just so you know.. Telling one to change there ways because they force others into changing ways, as you put it, would make you somewhat of a hypocrite.. Would it not?



Could not have said that better myself sister Mithra