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Ishukone-Raata Release [I-RED]: "Status of Jordan Kaine"
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John Revenent
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#121 - 2015-03-02 06:48:51 UTC
It just goes to show how deluded you are about my people.

Ishukone Loyalist - Private Contractor

"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."
Anslo
Scope Works
#122 - 2015-03-02 06:50:16 UTC
Keep talking.

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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#123 - 2015-03-02 06:50:21 UTC
Anslo wrote:
And you see, that's your problem. You rely on some foolish misplaced sense of moral superiority based on deeds done for a pathetic Empire who has a large chunk of Megacorp that simply despises you. You no longer have the power militarily you once did, you sure as **** no longer have the connections you did (i.e. when TISHU used you all as scout pets), yet you still talk this big talk like it's going to make things better.

Here's a newsflash for you, Johnny boy. It's your nose in the air attitude that's gonna get more people killed. It's your holier-than-thou talk that will cause people to die. So go ahead and try to talk down to me all you want (though how you think you can talk down to me is laughable at best). But at the end of the day, there's nothing you can do except talk. But hey, your ego is intact! So what else matters right?

You better hope we don't catch more I-RED ships during combat ops. Their crew is gonna fair a lot worse than they would have if you and your little alliance would just keep your mouths shut.

And to those about to post saying I'm throwing a childish tantrum? Oh well. Keep talking. It's not like you can do anything to stop me. I'd actually like to see that happen.

Please.

Try.

Anslo,

I liked being helped by you a lot better when you didn't look quite so much like the second coming of Jade Constantine.

Funny, isn't it? I can't remember my closest friends, but I can still remember her. And I wish her all Naraka's fires and frozen wastes.

I'm pretty close to wishing you the same, and I had no reason to despise you until you started talking like ... this.

A capsuleer taking his hate out on the hapless employees of those he opposes, as though they were to blame?

Contemptible.

-Aria
Anslo
Scope Works
#124 - 2015-03-02 06:51:16 UTC
Oh well.

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John Revenent
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#125 - 2015-03-02 06:54:19 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Jade Constantine.


That woman with all her faults was at least capable of holding a semi-intelligent conversation, and could be reasoned with.

Ishukone Loyalist - Private Contractor

"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#126 - 2015-03-02 07:17:01 UTC
John Revenent wrote:
That woman with all her faults was at least capable of holding a semi-intelligent conversation, and could be reasoned with.

"That woman" was a blind ideologue, and an intelligent fool.

"This man" is apparently deep in the abyss my predecessor tried to chart.

You're right: she was coherent, she could be reasoned with, and she was still who she was.

She was much worse.
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#127 - 2015-03-02 10:47:24 UTC
Rinai Vero wrote:
Actually, I wasn't a participant in those discussions at the time. I skimmed through them a few months ago, and its entirely possible I missed your explanation in clear terms.

You are rather coy, from time to time.


First uh, you accuse someone of mass murder, then you notice you may have missed something and backpedal by calling the ones you accused of 'being coy' ?

Please forgive me if I find the idea a bit... off.
Kalaratiri
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#128 - 2015-03-02 12:43:26 UTC
Anslo wrote:
You no longer have the power militarily you once did, you sure as **** no longer have the connections you did (i.e. when TISHU used you all as scout pets), yet you still talk this big talk like it's going to make things better.


Considering your own corporation's role in TISHU, this is ironic at best.

She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire.

This is possibly one of the worst threads in the history of these forums.  - CCP Falcon

I don't remember when last time you said something that wasn't either dumb or absurd. - Diana Kim
Anslo
Scope Works
#129 - 2015-03-02 13:09:49 UTC
Kalaratiri wrote:
Anslo wrote:
You no longer have the power militarily you once did, you sure as **** no longer have the connections you did (i.e. when TISHU used you all as scout pets), yet you still talk this big talk like it's going to make things better.


Considering your own corporation's role in TISHU, this is ironic at best.

Considering we left TISHU maybe you shouldn't comment on things beyond your button orbiting and lamenting love lost.

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Kalaratiri
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#130 - 2015-03-02 14:21:21 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Kalaratiri wrote:
Anslo wrote:
You no longer have the power militarily you once did, you sure as **** no longer have the connections you did (i.e. when TISHU used you all as scout pets), yet you still talk this big talk like it's going to make things better.


Considering your own corporation's role in TISHU, this is ironic at best.

Considering we left TISHU maybe you shouldn't comment on things beyond your button orbiting and lamenting love lost.


Starting to sound a bit like a broken record there Anslo. I had hoped for more creativity with your insults. As for lamenting, that might hurt if it was accurate.

She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire.

This is possibly one of the worst threads in the history of these forums.  - CCP Falcon

I don't remember when last time you said something that wasn't either dumb or absurd. - Diana Kim
Anslo
Scope Works
#131 - 2015-03-02 14:41:24 UTC
Kalaratiri wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Kalaratiri wrote:
Anslo wrote:
You no longer have the power militarily you once did, you sure as **** no longer have the connections you did (i.e. when TISHU used you all as scout pets), yet you still talk this big talk like it's going to make things better.


Considering your own corporation's role in TISHU, this is ironic at best.

Considering we left TISHU maybe you shouldn't comment on things beyond your button orbiting and lamenting love lost.


Starting to sound a bit like a broken record there Anslo. I had hoped for more creativity with your insults. As for lamenting, that might hurt if it was accurate.

Hard to make better insults with such irrelevant subjects as content. And I'd think lamenting would be the proper term. Last I heard you were crying your eyes out that she wouldn't return to you. Then again who would ever be with you in the first place, broken confused Sebiestor you are.

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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#132 - 2015-03-02 16:03:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Makoto Priano
You know, all Anslo needs are the gray hair and wrinkles, and he'd be the angry, senile uncle everyone wants to avoid. Well played!

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Steffanie Saissore
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#133 - 2015-03-02 16:05:49 UTC
Anslo wrote:
My empty threat just cost a few I-RED employee's their lives. More will die, and more Ishu-children will ask why mommy and or daddy aren't coming back from their job in space, until Kaine is returned to Jandice, unharmed, unthreatened, and unmodified. Anything done to hurt him, will be done to the employees of I-RED, and their families, ten fold.

Enjoy that 'empty threat,' *****.


The fact that you are threatening innocent lives with your inexplicable hatred...I am sorry Anslo, but I cannot associate with someone willing to murder people just because he doesn't like the color of the uniform they wear.

We travel in the dark of the new moon,

A starry highway traced on the map of the sky
Foley Aberas Jones
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#134 - 2015-03-02 16:31:34 UTC
....still wondering i f i should even jump into this shitstorm of a argument...

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#135 - 2015-03-02 16:33:15 UTC
Anslo wrote:

Hard to make better insults with such irrelevant subjects as content. And I'd think lamenting would be the proper term. Last I heard you were crying your eyes out that she wouldn't return to you. Then again who would ever be with you in the first place, broken confused Sebiestor you are.


What exactly is wrong with being a Sebiestor may I ask?

As far as TISHU goes, yes we were with them for that role, However quite a few of us (like myself who would hardly describe my work as anything but a scout or fast tackle pilot)flew the main doctrines like the rest of our alliance.
Steffanie Saissore
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#136 - 2015-03-02 16:34:12 UTC
Foley Aberas Jones wrote:
....still wondering i f i should even jump into this shitstorm of a argument...



Honestly, probably not worth the headache that it will induce.

We travel in the dark of the new moon,

A starry highway traced on the map of the sky
Foley Aberas Jones
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#137 - 2015-03-02 16:37:23 UTC
Steffanie Saissore wrote:
Foley Aberas Jones wrote:
....still wondering i f i should even jump into this shitstorm of a argument...



Honestly, probably not worth the headache that it will induce.



Do you have any idea how many concussions i get on the battlefield in a single day?

A headache sounds pleasant at this rate!
Rinai Vero
Blades of Liberty
#138 - 2015-03-02 16:44:53 UTC
Lyn Farel wrote:
Rinai Vero wrote:
Actually, I wasn't a participant in those discussions at the time. I skimmed through them a few months ago, and its entirely possible I missed your explanation in clear terms.

You are rather coy, from time to time.


First uh, you accuse someone of mass murder, then you notice you may have missed something and backpedal by calling the ones you accused of 'being coy' ?

Please forgive me if I find the idea a bit... off.


What else do you call it when a person talks about "sterilizing" colonies, then spends several pages of discussion vacillating between hard edged insistence upon their willingness to kill before explaining "Oh, no of course I only used 'sterilize' because I like things to be clean."

I actually went back and gave the topic in question another look, and if there was an explanation in as much detail as Oniseki gave here, I missed it again. I will say that I was mistaken in thinking I-RED had admitted to executing prisoners on their colonies, although there were apparently some 65 deaths in various confrontations. I gather I-RED deemed use of force justified in these cases.

"Mass murder" was never a phrase I uttered, by the way. You must be mistaking me for all of the people losing their composure over Anslo.

I used the term "executions" because I was under the impression I-RED had engaged in judicious killing of what they deemed to be criminal elements mucking up their "Dustbowl." Since Katrina made a point at the time of illuminating her willingness to kill pirates, I don't think I'm so far off the mark, still.

And again, that's the crux of the issue. We all justify killing one way or another, and some take their justification even further.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#139 - 2015-03-02 16:45:25 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Anslo,

I liked being helped by you a lot better when you didn't look quite so much like the second coming of Jade Constantine.

Funny, isn't it? I can't remember my closest friends, but I can still remember her.


Of all the things to survive your transition intact, you got that one?

Harsh.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#140 - 2015-03-02 17:06:09 UTC
Rinai Vero wrote:
Lyn Farel wrote:
Rinai Vero wrote:
Actually, I wasn't a participant in those discussions at the time. I skimmed through them a few months ago, and its entirely possible I missed your explanation in clear terms.

You are rather coy, from time to time.


First uh, you accuse someone of mass murder, then you notice you may have missed something and backpedal by calling the ones you accused of 'being coy' ?

Please forgive me if I find the idea a bit... off.


What else do you call it when a person talks about "sterilizing" colonies, then spends several pages of discussion vacillating between hard edged insistence upon their willingness to kill before explaining "Oh, no of course I only used 'sterilize' because I like things to be clean."

I actually went back and gave the topic in question another look, and if there was an explanation in as much detail as Oniseki gave here, I missed it again. I will say that I was mistaken in thinking I-RED had admitted to executing prisoners on their colonies, although there were apparently some 65 deaths in various confrontations. I gather I-RED deemed use of force justified in these cases.

"Mass murder" was never a phrase I uttered, by the way. You must be mistaking me for all of the people losing their composure over Anslo.

I used the term "executions" because I was under the impression I-RED had engaged in judicious killing of what they deemed to be criminal elements mucking up their "Dustbowl." Since Katrina made a point at the time of illuminating her willingness to kill pirates, I don't think I'm so far off the mark, still.

And again, that's the crux of the issue. We all justify killing one way or another, and some take their justification even further.



I am not sure to understand what is your point. Are you implying that the killing fields are I-RED's doing against criminals ?