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Minny Ships....

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Vanessa Vale
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2011-12-22 14:22:37 UTC
Goose99 wrote:
it's not going to catch vaga or cynabal that goes to 3km/s with normal mwd without overheat.?Roll


Ohh noes you are going to grief your enemies by flying away after taking a few pot shots? Soooo evil!
Smabs
State War Academy
Caldari State
#22 - 2011-12-22 14:29:47 UTC
I never understood why people like the vaga so much. It always felt like it was short on cap, did no damage and had a bad tank whenever I flew it. It seemed like the stuff I could kill with it could be killed with a rupture or whatever.

Maybe that's a complaint about cruiser hulls as a whole, though. The cynabal seems like it has enough cap and tank to actually kill stuff bigger than a frigate so maybe it's more fun.
Naomi Knight
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2011-12-22 14:45:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Naomi Knight
Smabs wrote:
I never understood why people like the vaga so much. It always felt like it was short on cap, did no damage and had a bad tank whenever I flew it.



hmm looks like you havent flown deimos eagle cerb sacri ... no wonder why you think matar is balanced 0 experience outside matar hulls , just like other winmatards
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2011-12-23 08:21:06 UTC
Naomi Knight wrote:
Smabs wrote:
I never understood why people like the vaga so much. It always felt like it was short on cap, did no damage and had a bad tank whenever I flew it.



hmm looks like you havent flown deimos eagle cerb sacri ... no wonder why you think matar is balanced 0 experience outside matar hulls , just like other winmatards



Oddly you left the Zealot off that list.


People fly the Vaga because of GTFO ....period...you get to choose what you engage and unless you screw it up you leave with your ship.
Naomi Knight
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2011-12-23 09:06:00 UTC
Onictus wrote:
Naomi Knight wrote:
Smabs wrote:
I never understood why people like the vaga so much. It always felt like it was short on cap, did no damage and had a bad tank whenever I flew it.



hmm looks like you havent flown deimos eagle cerb sacri ... no wonder why you think matar is balanced 0 experience outside matar hulls , just like other winmatards



Oddly you left the Zealot off that list.


People fly the Vaga because of GTFO ....period...you get to choose what you engage and unless you screw it up you leave with your ship.

they fly vaga cause it has no drawbacks,just gtfo advantage
speed is there ,but still comparable buffer tank and dmg + drones and neuts to get rid of tacklers
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2011-12-24 00:26:35 UTC
Naomi Knight wrote:
Onictus wrote:
Naomi Knight wrote:
Smabs wrote:
I never understood why people like the vaga so much. It always felt like it was short on cap, did no damage and had a bad tank whenever I flew it.



hmm looks like you havent flown deimos eagle cerb sacri ... no wonder why you think matar is balanced 0 experience outside matar hulls , just like other winmatards



Oddly you left the Zealot off that list.


People fly the Vaga because of GTFO ....period...you get to choose what you engage and unless you screw it up you leave with your ship.

they fly vaga cause it has no drawbacks,just gtfo advantage
speed is there ,but still comparable buffer tank and dmg + drones and neuts to get rid of tacklers


Comparable to what?

The ship has next to no capacitor and melts THE SECOND it gets scrammed.

Pretty much every other HAC does more damage, has better or tank or more utility, the Vaga is completely a one trick pony.....fast, that is it.
Versuvius Marii
Browncoats of Persephone
Ironworks Coalition
#27 - 2011-12-24 00:52:12 UTC
Onictus wrote:
the Vaga is completely a one trick pony.....fast, that is it.

And that's a bad thing? If someone does scram you when you're in a Vaga, you deserve to die. If you're stupid enough/a **** pilot, then that's what will happen. Lrn2PVP.

The Gaming MoD - retro to modern, console to MMO, I blog about it if it's a game and I'm interested in it. Yes, I play games other than Eve and I don't care if you think I'm wrong.

Goose99
#28 - 2011-12-24 15:46:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Goose99
Vanessa Vale wrote:
Goose99 wrote:
In any case, how do you get 2.4km/s out of a Diemost? It should be 2km/s with 2 nanos. Deadspace mwd? More than 2 nanos? Overheat? Regardless, it's not going to catch vaga or cynabal that goes to 3km/s with normal mwd without overheat. As for more dps at 27km, is that neutrons with stacked tes and null against failfit with low range ac ammo?Roll


Ohh noes you are going to grief your enemies by flying away after taking a few pot shots? Soooo evil!


There, I fixed your selective quote, correctly reflecting the fact that vaga will kite your diemost until you pop.Cool

Fly Winmatar, Winmatar Wins.Big smile
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
#29 - 2011-12-25 04:41:59 UTC
All this nerf Minmatar waaah waah waah. Roll

My Gallente ship now does insane facemelting damage, but I'm tooo slow to catch Minmatar ships by myself. NO FAIR!

I don't know what world you live in where all the fighting is 1 vs 1 of similar sized ships.

Sure, a Tempest will kite a Megathron and kill it at intermediate range all day 1vs1.
Just as a Megathron will tank and spank a Tempest up close and personal in a hotdrop/station games situation. Big surprise.

But these whiners are getting greedy - they want to be able to chase down a kiting Tempest in the Mega, too.
Idiotic solutions like "Give Gallente highest speeds, Minmatar highest agility, LOL" - because Agility is soooo useful.

These idiots need to get a grip. Fights are almost never 1 vs 1, type against type.

Sure, Minmatar BS are (slightly) faster than Gallente BS, but Gallente BC and smaller can easily overtake and slow a larger class Min ship.

A tackled Minmatar BS will melt rapidly when the insane point blank Blaster Damage comes into play,

If you are in the Gallente face-melter, you don't try to chase down the Nano-pest yourself! You get a smaller ship in your gang to do if for you, then walk up and proceed to wash it in massive blaster DPS that no Autocannon/Ammo combination can hope to match. Not even Hail.

Its like these people are handed a hybrid buff, and an across the board speed/agility buff when they are ALREADY the 2nd fastest race, but they cry anyway because they can't outrun AND outgun/tank every other type of ship.

Sad and pathetic.
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