Market Discussions

Hello,

As you now likely know, I am Held der Finsternis, Supreme Commander of Highsec. Those who have been living under a rock can read more about me in the links within my bio, so I won't repeat all of that here.

As the title suggests, I am seeking 15 billion isk loan, and I am FULLY COLLATERALIZING the debt with my honour, my solemn oath that I will repay you every last isk. I might even pay some interest, as we can discuss.

PURPOSE OF FUNDS:

I "never" buy EVE Online characters for isk, ever. Nor do I sell them. I prefer to create my characters from scratch and name them with tender love, skilling each last skillpoint with delicate care and precision, giving their entire lifetime experience my loving touch. However, I will now be making a one-time exception.

Very soon, a 92+ million skillpoint character will come on the market that has been valued at 20 billion isk. As the seller stated to me " But not specialized, so not really worth a lot. Perfect EW pilot, perfect 17.1mil sp fleet booster, but other than that, not really specialized in anything worth paying a lot for." The initial bid is planned to be 10b, with a 15b buyout for a quick sale. The proceeds of the auction are planned by the seller to be donated to the Angel Project.

But I don't really care about skillpoints. Like I said, I would "never" typically buy a character for that reason, with a name someone else picked out. Eww, gross. These are our characters, our personalities, our legacies. They are not property to be bought and sold.

The real value is in the name, the legacy. For privacy reasons, and a bit of OPSEC reasons as well, I will not disclose publicly the name of the character here, but it is a very famous one that most either love or hate. And... it is very special in my war against James 315, his "New Order," and the CODE. alliance. It will shake them to their core to see this character in my alliance, perhaps as my alliance executor. So the character really is invaluable to the future of Highsec.

# of Investors/Amounts:

I have a strong preference to find a single lender to provide the full 15 billion isk. My second best choice would be to have 3 players lend me 5 billion each, or 5 lend me 3 billion each. I would certainly accept 15 lending me 1 billion each, but this sale will come up very soon and we need to act QUICKLY. If smaller investors come along followed by larger ones, exceeding my 15 billion total isk amount, I will refund the smaller investors as makes sense, and provide free gifts from my assets as a special thank you payment. I only need to borrow exactly 15 billion isk, and not one isk more. I don't want to take on more debt than I require.

PAYBACK TERMS/ABILITY TO REPAY:

I will payback 100% of the loan as quickly as possible, with the larger investors paid back first if there are multiple ones. 100% of the total principal raised (15 billion) will be paid back before I make any optional interest payments. I will do this to ensure your safety of getting back your principal.

I will seek to pay back the full funding amount from my personal income I earn from time to time on alts, which shall remain anonymous for their continued viability in their chosen professions and current secret missions. If necessary, I will "invest" some or all of the 15b required to pay the debt off with shareholder funds as they come in, so long as I do not unnecessarily deplete those funds too quickly or too low for the needs of a better Highsec. And I must hold to my fiduciary responsibility to safeguard shareholder funds. In the event such an action is required, I will fully document any such transaction and payback terms so as to protect my shareholders, and to protect Highsec. In the unlikely event of a collapse of my rebel organization, I shall seek first to payback my shareholders even if it requires a sale of the character in question. If the proceeds of the initial character sale do indeed go to a worthy cause such as the Angel Project, then I pledge that any eventual resale of the character will also go to a worthy cause such as that. The most likely condition of this would not be failure, but my success in defeating the New Order once and for all.

OPTIONAL INTEREST/PAYBACK PERIOD:

The payback period shall be as soon as reasonably possible. I expect this to be less than 6 months for sure, probably less than 3 months, and quite possibly within a month. If the market demands it, I may agree to reasonable interest as would be expected from other fully collateralized loans. Otherwise, interest payments, if any, would be at my sole option. Most likely I would gladly pay interest, likely above market interest rates because of my exceedingly generous good nature, assuming that the lender is also of high moral character such as myself and agrees to my terms of my choice in the matter, to maximize my flexibility which ensures my ease of payback.

USE OF CHARACTER:

I will likely transfer the character to my main account so as to minimize my personal plex expenditures, which would aid in the ease of payback. I may, at my sole discretion, and upon consultation with my informal cabinet, decide to plex a new or existing dormant account for this character. The character will primarily be used for one or all of the following reasons:

1. Demoralize the New Order
2. Provide perfect mining bonuses for alliance and other heroic highsec fleets
3. Provide perfect fleet bonuses for our anti- ganking fleets, which will have a crazy good doctrine and strike fear into New Order agents and Knights everywhere.

Friends have asked that I put such a request in writing in MD so as to formalize the request in public, stamping my pledge of repayment with the full faith and credit of my good name.

Thanks,

Held

i didnt really read much after the "collaterizing with my honor" all other stuff seemed like it had holes in it, 92mil sp char "on sale soon" but not specialized in anything other than fleet boosting and ewar but with more than 92mil sp, no evidence or details of how this will be paid back or really when (secret alts doing stuff).

we dont really care how you will use the character, that is irrelevant we care more about how you will pay back the isk with interest and how much interest.

allbeit honor isnt a valid collateral in a game of internet spaceships so unless you got something nice in your hanger i wont invest

your character is around 5months old what name could be "sullied" apart from your other posts looking for investments and free money. can you clarify what exactly is at stake?

I'll Pledge 20B! Oh wait he's not worth .02 isk!

I have more chance of raising 15B in this thread than you do.

Last to 15B is a sissy.


I hope you don't mind me entertaining myself while I wait?

>>>Offering: 15B bond @ 10% for 1 month<<<

are you saying you messaged james 315 to ask for a loan to buy a character to fight his alliance? wtf is going on here

The only hope you have of filling this is if flakeys still gives loans.

That is correct. I am also about to mail Tora Bushido and see who responds first.

I have also been in discussions with a major freight organization and will post the redacted last response of mine here so you can get a little better idea of things that you seem to have not had a chance to read about yet. this involves an evemail chain where I warn him that CODE. may be infiltrating a major freight organization as we speak. Normally I'll keep such private information private due to OPSEC, but you seem to be legitimately asking questions to learn, which was not my initial impression of you:

"I have been in the very inner circle of leadership and involved in many of the most planned out operations, with the limitation that I have ot had access to "director level" forum and teamspeak priveleges. I helped keep CODE together at times it was about to fall apart due to internal strife. But that process has led to a very different organization than I originally signed up with. What "did it" for me was taking a short break from the game and coming back to find my character purged from the alliance due to inactivity despite my regular activity in the relevant forums and other channels outside of eve, keeping them updated as to my status and desire to stay in "active" status. I had most of my wealth tied up in corp hangars feeling secure in that "we don't scam friends" but logging back in without access and no way to recover what I lent during my absense, and no serious responses when I asked to get some of my stuff back. So it's a bit personal, but I'm still friends with many and it's only isk, so this whole thing is really just a personal challenge of mine to see if I can do it, which I am confident I can, even if it takes me a year or even a few years.

Anyway, [REDACTED] has not been specifically targeted yet [edit* as far as I know], but one of the "bucket list" items for CODE. that they'd like to accomplish relatively soon, not today or tomorrow, but "soon" is to take down a major freight corp, you guys, [REDACTED], or maybe one of the handful of smaller [REDACTED] players. I had been gathering intel and suggesting we hit a smaller operation that specialized in [REDACTED]. But who knows now.

I can't offer you any specfic intel right at this time. I'd love to have you as a public shareholder along with other "carebear" heavyweights, but I don't require it. I'm sure I'll be here a year from now with a more established reputation if that makes you feel more confident at that time, which I totally understand and respect.

My personal short term goals are to get my alliance founded, hopefully buy a very specific character I allude to here...

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5542206

and just get active membership in my corp and alliance to something at least sustainable even if small (e.g. recruiters, some pvp pilots, some industry etc.) Even some gankers, because I plan to very soon make a big splash by ganking CODE. out of alliance bumpers and freighters, and later when I have numbers, taking out ganking fleets.

Anyway, it'll be a fun and wild ride no matter what happens, and tons of content for onlookers to read about.

:)"

I hope this helps some, friend. For more questions about the rebellion and my organization, please direct such questions to the C&P thread (see my bio for links to that one as well as my IPO thread) or seek me out directly. I'd very much like to keep this MD thread as on topic as possible regarding the actual loan.

Thank you.

Garbage in moderate amounts would in fact improve this eyesore.