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[ IAPETAN TITANS ] A sketch of the "First Titans" + Scale Context

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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#1 - 2015-03-02 01:12:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
[AMENDMENT] Supplement: Scale Context Mock-up that shows the size of these things in comparison to current titans- it's comparing the Leviathan to a piece of wreckage labeled "omnya" in the game files- the last vestige of the Iapetans in the game Smile



Hello everyone!

Uriel here with a drawing I decided to do yesterday of the Iapetan Titans of old after reading Jandice's article on them again. These monstrous beasts are many times larger and immensely more powerful than the second-generation titans we use today (called "promethean" titans), and are posessed only by the empires (save for Khanid's Imud Hubrau and Serpentis's Soltueur, the FNS Molyneux).

Here's the Image!



Amarr Iapetan: Imud Hubrau (original)

There were two of these constructed, and according to the Titans chronicle it drained an entire moon of its resources to construct them. During his escape, King Khanid absconded with one of these two (which is probably a sweet silver Khanid sceme by now); the other is now rumored to be the "Emperor Ship".

Second-Generation Imud Hubrau (original)

These are the Iapetans the Amarr empire began to construct after the first two; they are reminiscent of the Promethean Amarr titan.

Caldari Iapetan: Omnya (original)

Not much is known at all about this titan, save for the fact that it was constructed during the end of the Caldari-Gallente war in response to the Federation's creation of their own.

Gallente Iapetan: Soltueur (original)

This class was designed and constructed during the end of the Caldari-Gallente war; they were mainly used for deterrence. In more modern times, Serpentis CEO Salvador Sarpati successfully hijacked one of these Iapetans, dubbed the FNS Molyneux, and escaped to Serpentis Prime.

Additionally, the Federation was fully prepared to use their Solteur wing if the battle of Caldari Prime hadn't gone their way.

Minmatar Iapetan: Leviathan (reimagined name: Precipice) (original)

The Minmatar Iapetans were mainly used by the Thukkers as mobile colonies (but don't doubt their defensive capabilities!). The Gallente shared the technology and designs necessary with the Minmatar early on, leading to these; however, they required a massive amount of resources, prompting the Minmatar to be the first empire to invest in creating the smaller Titans we capsuleers make use of.



I was trying to create a more modern take on the old Titans (I mean, just look at the old omnya), and I included the Promethean titans (look for them near their respective Iapetans!)- I'm in high hopes that they'll make an appearance once more in the future, especially given Falcon's revelation, and I would be massively excited if they returned Smile

Cheers!
Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#2 - 2015-03-02 01:25:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Rowells
That's a pretty big brutix

E: just realized those tiny blurbs near them are the Titans capsular era use. Are those anywhere close to scale?

If so

Shocked
Allant Doran
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2015-03-02 01:43:35 UTC
Definitely want to fight these as a gigantic PvP, CCP-involved event one day.

Perhaps the return of the Serpentis Solteur?
Chopper Rollins
hahahlolspycorp
#4 - 2015-03-02 02:23:12 UTC
People with refined taste appreciate a subtle blend of quantity and quality.
People with simple taste respond to quantity only, adoring the 'get more for less' marketing ploy, which is really just the rattling of a stick in a swill bucket.
Confirming there is no spaceship so large or powerful that someone won't imagine one twice as large.


Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#5 - 2015-03-02 03:03:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Chopper Rollins wrote:
People with refined taste appreciate a subtle blend of quantity and quality.
People with simple taste respond to quantity only, adoring the 'get more for less' marketing ploy, which is really just the rattling of a stick in a swill bucket.
Confirming there is no spaceship so large or powerful that someone won't imagine one twice as large.



Y'know, these are a confirmed thing in the lore- not my own creation.

And I don't want any player to ever get one- they're for the empires P A live event with these would be a blast
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#6 - 2015-03-02 03:21:53 UTC
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:
And I don't want any player to ever get one- they're for the empires P A live event with these would be a blast

I don't think it would matter. It's too big to fit within the shield protection of a POS, and the owner would be on every watch list across New Eden - so how would you ever logon with it?

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2015-03-02 03:41:20 UTC
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:
Chopper Rollins wrote:
People with refined taste appreciate a subtle blend of quantity and quality.
People with simple taste respond to quantity only, adoring the 'get more for less' marketing ploy, which is really just the rattling of a stick in a swill bucket.
Confirming there is no spaceship so large or powerful that someone won't imagine one twice as large.



Y'know, these are a confirmed thing in the lore- not my own creation.

And I don't want any player to ever get one- they're for the empires P A live event with these would be a blast


To Confirm: trying to talk smack to Uriel on the Lore is a bad idea.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#8 - 2015-03-02 04:28:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Ned Thomas wrote:


To Confirm: trying to talk smack to Uriel on the Lore is a bad idea.


Blink

Rowells wrote:
That's a pretty big brutix

E: just realized those tiny blurbs near them are the Titans capsular era use. Are those anywhere close to scale?

If so

Shocked


You might want to take a look at this mockup I've made Blink

That wreckage is under /res/dx9/model/worldobject/omnya in the game files- it's the last thing in the game that shows anything about the Iapetans.

I took it and compared it to the image of the in-game model it had a long time ago, and it matches a small part of it near-perfectly.

So looking at that, the size of what I drew isn't far-fetched at all! Big smile
Claud Tiberius
#9 - 2015-03-02 04:53:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Claud Tiberius
You can just imagine ships, gates etc .... all would be pulled in by the ships gravity to smash on the side Smile

Seriously that ship is huge. You could fit a few countries in there.

Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end.

Jenshae Chiroptera
#10 - 2015-03-02 05:14:55 UTC
Allant Doran wrote:
Definitely want to fight these as a gigantic PvP, CCP-involved event one day.
Perhaps the return of the Serpentis Solteur?
Imagine a few GMs taking it in shifts so it goes on for days? Wave after wave of AI come warping in to repair the tackled flag ship and fight us off.

Would be good for EVE publicity and maybe some sort of online gaming event record for the longest one. Blink

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#11 - 2015-03-02 05:40:25 UTC
Don't forget the Minmatar have been working on a project called "Sky Mother".
And page 164 of Templar One has a comment regarding the "plans" the elders have that implies they intend to use it.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Reiisha
#12 - 2015-03-02 08:15:58 UTC
I wonder where they would fit on the spaceship size chart.

http://www.merzo.net/

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...

Allant Doran
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2015-03-02 12:45:12 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Don't forget the Minmatar have been working on a project called "Sky Mother".
And page 164 of Templar One has a comment regarding the "plans" the elders have that implies they intend to use it.


This is one of those things I remember reading waaay back and it seems to have vanished.

Isn't the only hint given to Skymother's size that it required FOUR jump cores to be installed? Something like that.
Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#14 - 2015-03-02 12:48:13 UTC
Wow - thanks for this post. I never knew about this at all. Makes me want to go back and read over more of the chronicles and lore history.

Nice job :)

Kitchen sink? Seriousy, get your ship together -  Fleet-Up.com

AOSA
Atreidun Order
#15 - 2015-03-02 13:13:20 UTC
That is an awesome sketch. A long time ago I drew up some concept art for similarly sized warships which I called Planetary Destroyers and Super Planetary Destroyers, mainly to indicate there size rather than function, though their armaments could easily serve such a purpose. I can't find a good scan of them anyway though.. :-/
Mobbel Ernaga
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#16 - 2015-03-02 13:30:29 UTC
So instead of walking in stations we might get flying in stations, nice idea.
Darren Airtex
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2015-03-02 13:43:49 UTC
Imud Hubrau meaning "Beast of Heaven"
Soltuer meaning "Sun Slayer"

The Jovian had 3 mammoth motherships that pre-date modern space travel.

Titans had such mind-boggling mass that smaller ships would get caught in the gravity bow-wave they created. There is a record of a Titan that moved into the orbit of planet Goral causing shifts in the planetary patterns causing the flooding of farmlands and the decrease in food production, the entire system almost starved. Since then the Titans had fail-safes installed, preventing them from getting to close to a planet.

Kiandoshia
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2015-03-02 13:46:15 UTC
That's silly... why would anyone even build ships like that?

Oh well, I guess those are the wonders of a world in which resources respawn after downtime.
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#19 - 2015-03-02 15:15:45 UTC
A lot of those wrecks are from the before wormhole days.
Human ships back then were fully man and with the galaxy being full before eve, bigger ships = more people needed.
At this point in out current galaxy Eve does not have the crowding problem the home galaxy had, and fighters these days prefer much small ships, so even if something was built along those lines it'll be another glories yacht with guns.

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith

Anthar Thebess
#20 - 2015-03-02 15:17:51 UTC
I want event where those ancient mammoths will start to destroy player made outposts.
Drop super fleet , and sacrifice most of it to kill one , or loose tons of stations.

Victory!

Wait next one spotted Shocked
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