Intergalactic Summit

Actually

The format of this message, is the same as the message posted by one of the entities claiming to be Hilen Tukoss- as seen here:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5202131#post5202131


The other entitiy claiming to be Hilen Tukoss, had a different format of message, as can be seen here:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5148219#post5148219
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5176721#post5176721


So, it is, or looks like it is, the same entity as the one that warned that Site One had been 'hacked'.

And not the entity that was asking for body parts.

Unless it's all a disguise.


So, there are several possibilities

1. It's the same Hilen Tukoss that warned that Site One had been hacked, and this entity might be the real Tukoss.

2. It's not the real Tukoss, and is one of the impostors, with an agenda as yet unknown.

According to various deciphers, it seems Tukoss is asking us not to shoot him. He's on his way to Eram (in a Sleeper ship) and does not know his ETA. Kinda going to be difficult, but from what I've heard, the sleepers don't attack unless provoked, i.e. approached.

Best way to know is, I suspect Tukoss will be in a sleeper ship that won't attack.

What are these?

Do you have evidence to back the claim?

At the moment, it appears that the seekers are no longer visiting Site One. Thus, any sleeper ship that does visit it could well be the one with Tukoss in it.

I agree with the idea of not shooting such a ship. But I doubt all will. If his ship does pop up, someone will almost surely shoot it, just for sport. Given that Site One is in high sec, it will be very difficult to protect Tukoss's ship. Even remote repair may not work. Someone tried RR on a seeker, and interference prevented it from functioning.

Suggestions?

Recommendation: We should find all the nearest sleeper-generated wormholes and set up surveillance systems there. If someone is headed to Eram in a sleeper vessel he is likely to come through one of their established wormholes.

The system Lirerim for example is only two jumps from Eram and contains an unidentified stable wormhole. I would have set up a monitoring buoy there, but two drifter battleships came through the wormhole as I approached and I figured it was best to not decloak.

I think the people in play have a lot better things to do than "troll" other capsuleers.

Those better things being destroying or manipulating capsuleers for their own personal gain; not sure which it is yet--perhaps both.

-Eran

I'm not sure killing all the drifters is a workable solution. For starters they take a lot of firepower to kill like you said. A coordinated effort to clear all their wormholes (we don't know where Dr Tukoss might turn up) would take a lot of capsuleers and ISK to pull off successfully. Without the backing of the empires or one of the larger capsuleer alliances I'm not convinced it could be done well. Also, at the moment the Drifters are doing their own thing. They pop in, scan stuff then pop out. If we start killing all of them they could become actively hostile. I'd rather not see what several hundred Drifter battleships can do when they're pissed off.

I propose we keep site one under surveillance. We know that the nebula visible through the unidentified wormholes is consistent with the one visible in Thera and (I believe) the shattered systems that are only accessible to small ships. I recommend anyone with access to those systems keep an eye out for any sleeper or drifter class ships acting oddly. Capsuleers living in other anoikis systems should probably keep one eye open too. If I was escaping my captors in a commandeered ship I'd jump through as many random wormholes as I could until my pursuers couldn't possibly know where I was, THEN work out where I am and try to make my way home.

I would guess that the ship we're looking for is closer to drifter specifications rather than the sleeper ships we're used to seeing. I understand traditional sleeper ships are just drones. My understanding is that drones don't usually have space for a crew, meaning a prisoner couldn't escape in one.

When I became a capsuleer I was interested in fortune, immortality and women. When the hell did I start worrying about interstellar wars, missing scientists and thousand year old mysteries?

As Anslo stated in his note on the translation document for Hilen Tukioss' latest message, if there is a good chance that he is alive and about to arrive back at AJS1, we're going to need a more organised effort and a solid fleet there if we want to back him up, or at the very least some logistics ships to try and make sure he makes it to some relative safety in one piece. Now, as Vincent Athena mentioned, I have been experimenting with trying to repair both the Seekers and Drifter Marauders, in a variety of different situations. All I was ever given was the message: "You cannot activate that module on the target as interference prevents assistance from being given to them." We know that the Sleeper drones in Anoikis can and will repair one another, so we can only hope that should it occur, whatever ship he manages to escape in is one that we can assist. To this end I will be stockpiling some cheap Exequrors in system, if anyone wants to get involved feel free to contact me. Currently myself, Dr Borkstar and Jaret Victorian, among a pool of maybe half a dozen others, are doing our best to keep an eye on Site One itself, while Morwen Lagan was working from the Eifyr and Co. station, which had been the headquarters for the Arek'Jaalan project before Site One was built. I fear that after a fair interval, and the albeit fascinating distraction of the Seyllin Conference, interest is waning. There will definitely be people ready and willing to kill anything that appears, if we want to try and help, we need to prepare.

Whether or not the man himself is going to show up in Eram now or ever, one thing is certain: the Drifters now have. Although there is no Unidentified Structure that we can see, and no Unidentified Wormhole in system, Artemis Tyrannos is now very much active in system. Like the Seeker drones, she doesn't go to Antiquus as it stands, spending most of her time at the Vullat Gate, or flitting between stations. While there are no correlating strutures in system, I believe it likely that she came out of the UW which popped up in the nearby system of Eystur several days age, though obviously I couldn't possibly comment on whether she used our gate system, or some other means to get from one system to another. Possibilities include more personalized wormholes, unmarked gates we don't know the location of, cloaked structures we can't access, or even some sort of covert-cynosaural technology.

The bigger questions about whether these messages are from Tukoss or some imposter, and if the message is even telling us to keep the Sleepers away from site one, by force if necessary, or is in fact warning us desperately not to shoot any that do show up, remain unanswered. Given the snippets we've received, I'd say that Tukoss' intervention could well explain why the Seekers, and thus maybe the Drifters too (if they are using them as scouts) would be s good an explanation as any for why Site One is being avoided, where before it was shown such a high level of interest. And as such, I'm advocating we try to stay calm, and not aggress. If anyone else has any pertinent information, or wants to express an opinion, please do!

[quote=Khaprice]As Anslo stated in his note on the translation document for Hilen Tukioss' latest message, if there is a good chance that he is alive and about to arrive back at AJS1, we're going to need a more organised effort and a solid fleet there if we want to back him up, or at the very least some logistics ships to try and make sure he makes it to some relative safety in one piece. /quote]

If there will be a real incursion of Drifters into the Site one, I can organize a defence fleet of Razor Alliance. Have to inform the leadership bfeorehand, but I don't think that there will be any problems at all.

So about the organzied defence, Be vigilant that Razor can gladly form a defence fleet for the good of A'J and defence of Site One.

What I need though is that I need to know the incursion beforehand to organize our forces and get the defense fleet into the System. I also need it beforehand to inform the MA's and our FC's to be prepared for this.