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On Drones as a Primary Damage Source

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Xenuria
#1 - 2015-02-27 15:43:45 UTC
~Reference~

All Skills Maxed Ishtar
702 DPS – Garde II
793 DPS – Ogre II


~Argument Inoculation~

“Just put guns on it”
CCP has stated on the record that Drone Damage is a primary damage dealer, fitting to compensate for problems with the efficacy of that damage dealer is not relevant.

“Ishtars are OP because hullsize/Damage potential”
Battleship hulls at present have the same drone bonuses in terms of damage, so there is no benefit in the context of drone dps to using a battleship class hull.

“Ishtar fleets are OP in pvp!!11”
To suggest that a ships bonuses should be nerfed to cater to a single aspect of the gameplay is shortsighted and stinks of googly eyes on ships. There are better ways to stabilize a perceived imbalance like this.

~Suggestions~

Reshape the way drone bonuses work on ships designed as drone boats. Retain the option of using guns but also provide damage bonus to drones to bring them in line with blasters. Maybe a system that switches between modes, “Primary Secondary”.

Give battleships that are drone boats a bonus proportion to their size and role in the game.

CSM 12 Candidate
Iain Cariaba
#2 - 2015-02-27 16:50:51 UTC
Show us on the doll where the evil Ishtar touched you.

Reported for redundancy.
Xenuria
#3 - 2015-02-27 16:54:51 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Show us on the doll where the evil Ishtar touched you.

Reported for redundancy.

The ishtar isn't evil and this isn't redundant.

CSM 12 Candidate
Arden Elenduil
Unlimited Bear Works
#4 - 2015-02-27 17:06:06 UTC
"Points at devmade sticky thread about the ishtar nerf"
.....
The phrase "login to www.clue.org and issue the GET command" springs to mind.
Iain Cariaba
#5 - 2015-02-27 17:28:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Iain Cariaba
Xenuria wrote:
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Show us on the doll where the evil Ishtar touched you.

Reported for redundancy.

The ishtar isn't evil and this isn't redundant.

The sticky thread on page 1 of F&I says differently.

Edit: Even if there wasn't already a sticky about the ishtar, there's already about three thousand other ishtar threads.
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#6 - 2015-02-27 18:15:05 UTC
i would like too see less turrets on droneboats, e.g. the myrm can outdamage a brutix.

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using
Catherine Laartii
Doomheim
#7 - 2015-02-27 18:24:07 UTC
Seconded since 860 dps vexors are a thing. Also, props for nobody telling you to STFU so far. Smile
Xenuria
#8 - 2015-02-27 18:31:41 UTC
This isn't about ishtars as much as it's about drone damage as a primary form of damage dealing.

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Zavand Crendraven
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2015-02-27 19:32:05 UTC
Harvey James wrote:
i would like too see less turrets on droneboats, e.g. the myrm can outdamage a brutix.

I know right and just like on the myrmidon one can destroy all the turrets on a brutix and leave it with no dps at all... Wait thats not how it worked
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#10 - 2015-02-27 19:35:52 UTC
Zavand Crendraven wrote:
Harvey James wrote:
i would like too see less turrets on droneboats, e.g. the myrm can outdamage a brutix.

I know right and just like on the myrmidon one can destroy all the turrets on a brutix and leave it with no dps at all... Wait thats not how it worked


e-war ...works on guns but not drones, anymore??

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#11 - 2015-02-27 20:25:31 UTC
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