Ships & Modules

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Quote a post, but unable to repute it, instead, deferring to a red herring personal attack instead, by suggesting I somehow have no "PVP experience." Ad hominem defined.

You don't respond to a person in a thread dedicated to an issue, you respond to the post/issue. You implied that contents of the post was wrong by suggesting I have no pvp experience, which is an ad hominem attack and logical fallacy. It's actually true if reference is limited to this faceless forum troll alt.

As for your barrage of meaningless questions, there's no answer. There are too many variables: what's present on either side, if/how many/what kind of tacklers, ship types, fits, numbers, logi, any wildcards (falcon, rapier, etc). The only thing I can tell you for sure is if you "started at 1500 meters" in a non-failfit Winmatar boat on blasterboats, you're pretty much screwed. But that's your own fault.

So how do you like those rails nowdays?

Btw, what color are you undies?

Then specify the situation. I'm not typing out a wall of text covering all possible scenarios.

More importantly, how do you like your newly "buffed" rails? Gotta have some non-thread derailing content.

And there it is, ad hominem defined.

I was just giving you the benefit of a doubt. But apparently it's misplaced. You were just out of gas, and had to resort to this. Claiming Gallante superiority those days must be rough.



^this says a lot.

As what comes to the issue of rails, I spent a few hours trying to come up with viable rail fits on Brutix or Myrm (to be flown with a long point in a nano-BC gang), and I must say that it just doesn't work.

I like medium rails on a sentry Vexor (no tank, nanoed for gtfo, used from range like a proper coward) but on BCs they don't offer any advantages. DPS is very low even with close range ammo, and they leave very little fitting resources.

Large rails might work as supplementary DPS on a Domi, but as the main weapon I'm afraid rails just don't cut it.

At no point in any of his writings has he tried to learn anything. All he has done is spouted the same incoherent crap over and over. His only argument is that he is right (without any substantial proof) and that everyone else has to prove him wrong (Even though anyone he actually plays this game knows that his arguments are swiss cheese). However, at least he can form full sentences, unlike you.

I give him credit for at least being a good troll, if he's truly not at stupid as he seems to be in his posts. You, however, are an even worse idiot. Your terrible typing and sentence structure is enough to make the saintliest nun shoot a room full of children in frustration.

I am not mad, I'm actually in a wonderful mood. Work is over in 4 minutes! :D

First off, base blaster damage is marginally superior to ACs, not "way better". The raw numbers are not a fair indicator, primarily due to the ability of ACs to use variable damage ammo, whereas blasters can only do thermal/kinetic damage. An AC can select specific ammo to shoot through a resist hole, as well as switch from max shield damage ammo to max armor damage ammo, during a fight - which signficantly boosts the AC's effective damage profile.

Second, superior tracking is not worth much when blasters are operating at their optimal + 2 x falloff range, and ACs are still within their optimal + falloff range. The damage attenuation due to range overwhelms the tracking speed advantage.

BTW - note that Tracking Enhancers (and Tracking Computers) boost optimal, falloff and tracking speed, but really give the most bang-for-the-buck to weapons which have long falloff ranges. On a TE II, the optimal bonus is only 15%, whereas the falloff bonus is 30%; on a TC II, the optimal bonus is only 7.5%, whereas the falloff bonus is 15%.

Now, keep in mind, too, that the Tracking Enhancer is a low slot module, and the Tracking Computer is a mid slot module. Minmatar ships, as shield tankers, are more likely to use Tracking Enhancers. Gallente ships, as armor tankers, are more likely to use Tracking Computers. This means that the Minmatar AC ship will benefit much more from a TE than a Gallente blaster boat will benefit from a TC.

I've read through this entire thread and what I've come away with is that a couple of people are whining because they probably fly Gallente, are terrible at pvp, and want to blame their choice of weapon systems on why they are so terrible.

Superior tracking is still a bonus at range against a Minmatar, since Minmatar will still be trying to keep up transversal at range, reducing their outgoing damage, yet you will still be hitting with your higher tracking. On top of losing damage for transversal, they will also be fighting in falloff, which again... reduces their outgoing damage.

Blaster damage IS way better than blasters when comparing ship types along with the tanks of said ship types. When your ship puts out 100-200 more dps and has 10-20k more ehp... you know what? That means that if you know how to fly your ship properly, you will probably win. This comes back to my point of those whining in this thread are probably terrible pilots who chose Gallente and want to place blame on their ships and not their inability to fly their chosen ships.

I also like how you claim that "Minmatar ships, as shield tankers" completely avoiding the FACT that half of the Minmatar ship lineup are actually armor tanked and/or have the same mids as lows making them craptankers. Gallente ships, as armor tankers, have a much better tank than ANY Minmatar ships can field. So, unless you are a tard, you can tank any Minmatar ship long enough to get in range and kill it, jump gate, dock. If you engaged with a ship you can't win against, that's your own damn fault to begin with.

Please, before you post again, take a hammer and drive it into one of your testicles (in game) so that you will know the pain that the rest of the sane world knows when having to read the dribble that you post on these forums. They really do defy all know reason and logic that is associated with this wonderful game that we all play, called Eve.

Once you've done this, and realize that it really is painful and useless, maybe you can start playing Eve again and learn how to PvP instead of crying on the forums because some Minmatar ship turned your Gallente ship into space pixels.

That was a lot of fun to post. I'm glad to be back to this wonderful game. \o/

Edit: I almost forgot. LOL at changing ammo. While the Minmatar player is taking 10 seconds to change ammo, you are continuing to shoot him. Say you are doing 600 dps. That's 6000 damage while he changes ammo. (of course reduce that for whatever things like resists, etc, but it still works out to you jamming them for 10 seconds compared to your 5 second reload time) and even MORE LOL at changing ammo just because you went through shields into armor. ACs go through insane amounts of ammo, most pilots only carry emp and barrage.

Left to me again?.

Ok lets look at the catalyst and hybrids.

With blasters it is capable of around 600dps with correct skills and is capable to melt and track about any frigate or cruiser as long as you know how to use it.

now for rails on it, most people will just say get lost and not even experiment.
It is easy to set up a "sniper" catalyst, full set of 150mm rails, sensor booster, and another sensor or tracking booster.
drone = hobgoblin, lows? overdrives and nano's for range control, or you can add mag stabs.

On the sniper note the corm can do this better then the cata, both will hit anything from 51km down to 12km fine.
the corm however can fit a decent tank or go faster.

shield gank brutix, using blasters can kick out over 600 dps and tank easly.

nothing is really broken its just situational like all ships!.

See how easy that was? lol....