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dominickthebuff buff
Forged In Fire
#1 - 2015-02-27 15:40:46 UTC
I'm just getting into station trading and in curious if I set station to range will people a system away see my buy order or do they haved to bring the stuff to me?
Cista2
EVE Museum
#2 - 2015-02-27 16:01:31 UTC
dominickthebuff buff wrote:
I'm just getting into station trading and in curious if I set station to range will people a system away see my buy order or do they haved to bring the stuff to me?

Items are always where they are. You can see items throughout the region, and if you have the skills, you can remotely buy and sell. However, when you have bought it, you will have to travel to pick it up (which can be into low sec systems).

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dominickthebuff buff
Forged In Fire
#3 - 2015-02-27 16:05:06 UTC  |  Edited by: dominickthebuff buff
Cista2 wrote:
dominickthebuff buff wrote:
I'm just getting into station trading and in curious if I set station to range will people a system away see my buy order or do they haved to bring the stuff to me?

Items are always where they are. You can see items throughout the region, and if you have the skills, you can remotely buy and sell. However, when you have bought it, you will have to travel to pick it up (which can be into low sec systems).




So what I did is I placed a buy order and set it to station so people in the region see it?
Alexi Stokov
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2015-02-27 17:11:30 UTC
dominickthebuff buff wrote:
Cista2 wrote:
dominickthebuff buff wrote:
I'm just getting into station trading and in curious if I set station to range will people a system away see my buy order or do they haved to bring the stuff to me?

Items are always where they are. You can see items throughout the region, and if you have the skills, you can remotely buy and sell. However, when you have bought it, you will have to travel to pick it up (which can be into low sec systems).




So what I did is I placed a buy order and set it to station so people in the region see it?



Yes, anyone in the region can see it. If it is limited to station, they can only sell to you at that specific station.
dominickthebuff buff
Forged In Fire
#5 - 2015-02-27 17:27:48 UTC
Alexi Stokov wrote:
dominickthebuff buff wrote:
Cista2 wrote:
dominickthebuff buff wrote:
I'm just getting into station trading and in curious if I set station to range will people a system away see my buy order or do they haved to bring the stuff to me?

Items are always where they are. You can see items throughout the region, and if you have the skills, you can remotely buy and sell. However, when you have bought it, you will have to travel to pick it up (which can be into low sec systems).




So what I did is I placed a buy order and set it to station so people in the region see it?



Yes, anyone in the region can see it. If it is limited to station, they can only sell to you at that specific station.





Then why would u sell something 40 jumps away?
Cista2
EVE Museum
#6 - 2015-02-27 17:59:32 UTC
dominickthebuff buff wrote:


Then why would u sell something 40 jumps away?

40 jumps away from where? You have to remember that things are where they are. The seller sets it for sale in the hope that the buyer doesn't mind doing the transport.

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dominickthebuff buff
Forged In Fire
#7 - 2015-02-27 18:01:51 UTC  |  Edited by: dominickthebuff buff
Cista2 wrote:
dominickthebuff buff wrote:


Then why would u sell something 40 jumps away?

40 jumps away from where? You have to remember that things are where they are. The seller sets it for sale in the hope that the buyer doesn't mind doing the transport.




Like in a buy order why would u set it for 40 jumps ? Is there a reason for doing so?
u3pog
Ministerstvo na otbranata
Ore No More
#8 - 2015-02-27 18:25:08 UTC  |  Edited by: u3pog
dominickthebuff buff wrote:
Cista2 wrote:
dominickthebuff buff wrote:


Then why would u sell something 40 jumps away?

40 jumps away from where? You have to remember that things are where they are. The seller sets it for sale in the hope that the buyer doesn't mind doing the transport.




Like in a buy order why would u set it for 40 jumps ? Is there a reason for doing so?


I can think of at least two - you avoid competition at station - someone might sell something 25 jumps away cheaper to you, but you'll have the option to sell it right where you bought it, or transport it to trade hub. Some people don't mind buying from few jumps away, you'd say why the seller didn't go to the trade hub, well usually to save time/laziness. Check buy prices - usually top orders are for station only, orders that cover the entire region could be a lot cheaper, so if you don't mind hauling 'em to the hub, then you might profit a lot, just remember the risk of being ganked if the goods are expensive.

Second reason - say you are at the trade hub, but you want to trade capital ships - they are not allowed in high sec, so you need to set a buy order at a greater range so it can cover low sec. Then, since you can't move it to the trade hub, you'll have to sell it immediately, using the marketing skill to sell from a distance.
Phig Neutron
Starbreaker and Sons
#9 - 2015-03-04 23:15:32 UTC
People are doing missions, mining, salvaging all over the region. Most of them just want to dock up, right-click, sell their treasures, and go back to doing more of it. If 90% of buy orders are set in the market station only, you could put a low-ball buy order for the whole region. Say you offer 1 isk for some module or ammo that's going for 10,000 in the trade hub. You will then start to accumulate a bunch of these all over the place. When you've got enough, go pick them up and haul them to a trade hub to sell for a huge profit.
Hippinse
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-03-05 04:30:51 UTC
Phig Neutron wrote:
People are doing missions, mining, salvaging all over the region. Most of them just want to dock up, right-click, sell their treasures, and go back to doing more of it. If 90% of buy orders are set in the market station only, you could put a low-ball buy order for the whole region. Say you offer 1 isk for some module or ammo that's going for 10,000 in the trade hub. You will then start to accumulate a bunch of these all over the place. When you've got enough, go pick them up and haul them to a trade hub to sell for a huge profit.


But don't forget to assign a value to your time spent picking things up & hauling. (Or, subtract the fees that you pay on hauling contracts.)
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#11 - 2015-03-05 05:02:22 UTC
As someone that makes frequent use of regionwide buy orders, I do it because people who are determined to sell an item fast will often sell it where they are rather than bringing it to a trade hub.

So if a pirate in Egghelende (Sinq Laison lowsec) loots four T2 Magstabs, 3 1600mm T2 plates, and some Heavy Ion Blasters, they are often happy to sell it where they are rather than getting a highsec legal alt to haul it to a hub. If they want top dollar, they use sell orders. But if they just want the stuff gone - they sell to my buy orders, and I work on getting top dollar for the goods.

Sometimes I sell it where it is, other times I pay a useful idiot to courier it to somewhere that it will fetch a premium price. For instance yesterday I paid 450m for a Vindicator blueprint copy in Egghelende, paid a useful idiot 5m to move it to Dodixie where I knew it would fetch a premium, and sold it there for 495m. The same day I also had some Light Neutron Blaster IIs sold to me in that same system, and I just reposted them on the market locally because I know there is local demand for them.

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adriaans
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Nair Al-Zaurak
#12 - 2015-03-06 17:33:27 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
As someone that makes frequent use of regionwide buy orders, I do it because people who are determined to sell an item fast will often sell it where they are rather than bringing it to a trade hub.

So if a pirate in Egghelende (Sinq Laison lowsec) loots four T2 Magstabs, 3 1600mm T2 plates, and some Heavy Ion Blasters, they are often happy to sell it where they are rather than getting a highsec legal alt to haul it to a hub. If they want top dollar, they use sell orders. But if they just want the stuff gone - they sell to my buy orders, and I work on getting top dollar for the goods.

Sometimes I sell it where it is, other times I pay a useful idiot to courier it to somewhere that it will fetch a premium price. For instance yesterday I paid 450m for a Vindicator blueprint copy in Egghelende, paid a useful idiot 5m to move it to Dodixie where I knew it would fetch a premium, and sold it there for 495m. The same day I also had some Light Neutron Blaster IIs sold to me in that same system, and I just reposted them on the market locally because I know there is local demand for them.



When setting region wide orders, especially to get what people in low-sec sell/dump, how do you decide on the price, for instance a lot of places 1 isk might be the only buy order for a t2 magstab, but I doubt someone would sell to it (at least regularly), assuming no competition, how do you determine where to price it?

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Tauren Transit
#13 - 2015-03-06 18:18:35 UTC
adriaans wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
As someone that makes frequent use of regionwide buy orders, I do it because people who are determined to sell an item fast will often sell it where they are rather than bringing it to a trade hub.

So if a pirate in Egghelende (Sinq Laison lowsec) loots four T2 Magstabs, 3 1600mm T2 plates, and some Heavy Ion Blasters, they are often happy to sell it where they are rather than getting a highsec legal alt to haul it to a hub. If they want top dollar, they use sell orders. But if they just want the stuff gone - they sell to my buy orders, and I work on getting top dollar for the goods.

Sometimes I sell it where it is, other times I pay a useful idiot to courier it to somewhere that it will fetch a premium price. For instance yesterday I paid 450m for a Vindicator blueprint copy in Egghelende, paid a useful idiot 5m to move it to Dodixie where I knew it would fetch a premium, and sold it there for 495m. The same day I also had some Light Neutron Blaster IIs sold to me in that same system, and I just reposted them on the market locally because I know there is local demand for them.



When setting region wide orders, especially to get what people in low-sec sell/dump, how do you decide on the price, for instance a lot of places 1 isk might be the only buy order for a t2 magstab, but I doubt someone would sell to it (at least regularly), assuming no competition, how do you determine where to price it?

Consider the average prices in jita, but more importantly the closest trade hub might be a region over , and at the same time only one jump away. So fly around a bit. Be sure to check 6 months and 1 year graphs for the item to get an idea too. Take it all into account and then lowball the hell out of it, placing a few orders at different increments to see if only one or all are filled. The time frame of their filling will give you an idea of how well the prices are perceived by the sellers and settle on the prices that filled more quickly.

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