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TECH 3 SHIPS DO NOT NEED THIER TANKS NERFED and here is why.

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
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#21 - 2015-02-27 05:31:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Vimsy Vortis
Right now the things you could use in place of T3s, such as battleships and to some extent battlecruisers aren't in a very good place. They're horribly slow compared to cruisers, both in warp and on the field and in the current world where cruiser hulls are all really fast their damage application blows.

If you want to actually be able to get somewhere within the next twenty minutes, be able to lock the other guys before they warp off, and actually be able to apply damage to them the only viable option you have left is T3s.

Nerfing T3 tanks isn't going to address that issue in the slightest, so long as they're still a Cruiser++ they're going to be what people use until such a time that anything bigger than a cruiser is worth using again.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#22 - 2015-02-27 05:31:25 UTC
I think reducing their EHP is the only option available until CCP makes a virus module that I can download to the sleeper mothership.
Kabark
Schilden
#23 - 2015-02-27 06:17:48 UTC
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:
Kabark wrote:
Max Deveron wrote:
Kabark wrote:
Gnosis is a JOVIAN battlecruiser and it barely excels at anything. It's a jack of all ace of none ship and it is Jovian. So please tell me how T3 ships with their sleeper tech outdo Jove ships? Seeing as now the Jove (Drifters) built the sleepers. T3s need sig radius increase and a cap reduction. The rest will fall in line.



Uhm actually the Jove did not build the sleepers.....the sleepers ran into hiding from the Jove to secret awa their tech and avoid the accusation the Jovian Disease was their fault. Go read Templar One sometime....it explains it.
I will go read that Big smile, but my point still remains valid. Jove are far more advanced than the 4 empires and yet the pitiful BC we get is a joke. Yes it's a deep space exploration ships but still. T3s are currently leaning high on the power scale.

Sorry to derail, but the Gnosis and Apotheosis are ships from the Society of Conscious Thought, a totally separate faction from the Jovian Directorate. Their ships are not at all like what the Jove have (though the Gnosis and the Drifter Battleship both seem to have gravimetric-based sensors).

SOCT is a collegiate institute run by Jovians. It's in SOCTs description... And the Gnosis is identified as "Jove Battlecruiser." Apotheosis is a Jove frigate that was de-milled into a shuttle. Jove Directorate and SOCT are both run by Jovians, they are just different organizations. There are quite a few.
Helios Panala
#24 - 2015-02-27 09:08:09 UTC
Kabark wrote:
SOCT is a collegiate institute run by Jovians. It's in SOCTs description... And the Gnosis is identified as "Jove Battlecruiser." Apotheosis is a Jove frigate that was de-milled into a shuttle. Jove Directorate and SOCT are both run by Jovians, they are just different organizations. There are quite a few.


They are Jove ships in the same way that the Guristas are Caldari. Related design, related tech, not the same faction.

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On the topic of T3 lore, the Empires are not as good at making specialized boats with sleeper tech as they are with their own. According to CCP you're supposed to end up with a fairly generalized ship that's very good at two or three things in comparison to a T2 that's awesome at one.

A T3 can be immune to bubbles but an interceptor can do that and travel faster.
A T3 can put on a very good tank but a battleship should tank more.
A T3 can put out very good damage but a HAC should put out more.

I obviously don't speak for CCP, but I think what they are wanting is basically "take 3x tech 2 ships, make them slightly worse at what they do, put it all in one hull and there you go, a T3."
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#25 - 2015-02-27 09:30:43 UTC
T3 cruisers were a mistake, implementation was a mess and they obsolete far to many other classes of ships. The current balance tweak is a good start but just doesn't go far enough.

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#26 - 2015-02-27 11:44:15 UTC
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