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Very nice from what I've seen so far. User friendly, clear...until I try it on a laptop.

I think the Dev's should play around with them on 17" monitors some more, and perhaps even smaller than that.

Also, will there *ever* be Salvage Drone II?

CCP have you gone absolutely insane?

Still getting used to the neocon and its undifferentiated icons.. and now you bring this? Scores of icons which look pretty similar across groups, let along within groups where there are minute differences?

The icons for drones and structures is just overkill.. see if the ship one makes any sense in the first place, before making a mess of the UI...

Guess which icon is which size and which type within that size bracket.

Not saying it looks any good, but it just illustrates more ways of conveying the different axes of differentiation you're looking for. Oh, and by the way, that's the size they have to be and still be crystal clear.

I love the new icons, but if you're going to keep this then PLEASE change the icon for wrecks. At a glance, it's harder to tell what's a ship on field and what's a wreck.

I don't need flipping new icons on my flipping overview because I know what all the flipping ships are.

Oh wait, an Archon is a capital? Thank you icon! Without you I'd be totally lost!

I think these new icons are totally not necessary. Current icons are ok, very good readable and understandable.
New stuff is just too much of it, it is very confusing, and my eyes hurt from looking at those.

Please add colour to the Icons and make them more distinguishable especially the sidebar one's there still doing my head in since they was changed. Even now I still click the wrong sidebar icons as some are too similar to others in the same bar.

Or allow us to add our own shape's and colour to the icons ourselves just like we do corp logo's.

Please fix the icons you broke CCP.

It has an image in it and I made these requests on the first page of the feedback thread.

The general response is, "Takes time, you will get used to it." Months later, they are still annoying me constantly.

I think this change is necessary, but you've ignored Robert Downey Junior's advice on winning Oscars here.

I have been expecting this move from CCP for the last couple of years, and it's good you are getting around to distinguishing, eg, destroyers, cruisers and battlecruisers, and battleships, dreads and carriers within those groups.

The problem you have is that you are using SIZE to distinguish the ships, not iconography. Remember - an ICON is a representative shape which the user recognises as having a particular meaning or function. In, for example, the toolbar above the text box for posting upon this here forum, the icon for BOLD is a bold B, italics is an Italic I, and Underline is a capital U with said underline.

You are NOT distinguishing these icons by sizing. No one would accept as a sensible foray into iconography that Bold is b, Italics is a B and italics is B.

Therefore what is the value of creating icons for frigates which are so small that eyesight problems, screen resolution choices, hardware choices (some monitors and screens don't go the whole way, or GPU's are incapable of max horsepower 1980++ resolution) will render the distinction between frigates and destroyers basically meaningless.

Admit it, you just googled up 'iconography for dummies' on the interwebs, spent 20 minutes skimming the book, and made a hash job of designing icons, and ended up with as said above, Space invaders.

Sadly, I believe you'll just go right ahead and make life terrible for everyone just like with Neocom icons have. It's been months and I still get confused between the bloody ship fitting icon, the contacts icon because they are too bloody similar from the corner of my eye (and for the record, twin 27" monitors and max res).

I cannot fathom how you think that the frigate, rookie ship and capsule icons could possibly be distingishable at either small-screen resolution on laptops, or at the other end of the scale as a tiny red/white dot in a list of other tiny red/white dots.

You need to divorce yourself from the ego and pride invested in your work with ISIS, and begin moving to icons for ships that are completely distinguishable from one another by shape, versus size.

e; frigate = triangle
destroyer = square
cruiser = open diamond
battlecruiser = solid diamond
battleship = hexagon (blops or marauder = solid)
capital = star (filled = carrier, empty = dread)
supercarrier = open circle
titan = filled circle

HOW SIMPLE IS THAT?

Further, your drone icons are going to be basically useless. For a start, no one uses anything except DPS or ECM drones 99% of the time. It's irrelevant from a gameplay perspective to know whether someone is using hull bots, armour bots, or shield bots. No one, ever, says "Shoot his armour bots but leave those hull bots alone!"

ECM drones and utility drones are too rarely seen for me to lose sleep or pay attention to what the crap they are. medium SD drones? hahahaha. Who cares, you may as well make trollface.jpg the icon because if anyone uses them they are a fool and are dying to your rifter.

You risk putting too many arcane icons into a game and causing intense confusion and attention-sapping annoyance.

Right now, if drones are launched i mouseover them to see what they are (DPS usually hobgoblin II, hammerhead II, Warrior II or Valkyrie II and heavies are almost always Geckos; ECM is always either Hornet EC-300 or Vespa EC-600) and that's that. I don't need to have visual information in my eyes which my brain struggles to comprehend because it's a tiny drone with an inward-facing wiggle and a round or is it square or is it triangular thingy, and then it's got a red plus or an orange plus.

Blergh. Sorry - too convoluted and unneccessary and hence this undermines the whole purpose which is to convey information in a visual format that is easy to understand at a glance. Drones are drones are drones.

The part of the whole iconography for dummies book you apparently didn't read was the part where it said "If there are too many icons, in this case, over 200 before you even get to structures, then the system breaks down."

Finally - pods are eggs. Leave it alone.