EVE General Discussion

This is fairly endearing.

My son plays EVE as well, and at one point he decided to fly out and join the Null Sec alliance I was a part of.

Despite my directives otherwise, before his application had cleared he got in a fast ship and ventured into our territory. I explained that I (and many others present) firmly believed in not making exceptions to neutrals flying in our space as it led to hesitation on the part of our pilots. This led would often lead to the wrong people living, and the wrong people dying.

True to form, my confident son (he is a well skilled pilot) ignored my warning and cheerfully told me not to worry about it. He was just looking around and planned on simply evading everyone while he checked things out, and would be leaving shortly.

In response I, like any good EVE father, gave the nod to my companions to destroy his ship and pod him back to his insurance clone... which we accomplished a few minutes later.

Ahhh... it warms my heart.

Happy holiday's all, happy holidays son.

A shobon newbie was trying to decide whether he wanted to sub up (he was on trial). He wanted to run some blops, but he couldn't train stealth bombers on a trial account. So I gave him a plex.

One could also argue that he taught his son a valuable lesson of null-sec, but I'll definitely say that's hardly a nice gift for the Christmas season

And no, we're not all evil folks, but it does happen a helluva lot .

EDIT: Jita Alt gets the idea.

1. I am not mistanking anything.
2. If there is no correlation between real life actions and game actions then your original position: that it is a cold act to shoot your own flesh and blood in a game is invalid - as there is no correlation, as you yourself imply.

1: My son was 26 at the time.

2: We were both laughing manically about it as it happened. He gave us a good run.

3: He was firmly reminded of something he had apparently forgotten after he got out on his own... that being that I mean what I say. I gave him fair warning.

4: We both understand that shooting each other in a game does not mean we don't love each other. It's something we frequently do in a variety of games. Almost as often as we work together.

5: It would have been somewhat crappy if I had lured him out to us with a promise of safety and THEN popped him. That's where I personally draw a line, although I fault no one that would do otherwise depending on the relationship they have with their son.

5: The next day, after he was properly in corp, I helped him move his stuff and we went on a very successful roam together.

6: He dropped nice loot.

7: Stop derailing this thread with commentary on my dark, EVE oriented humor. The thread has merit.

8: Happy holiday's all.

Fair enough I ask as when I didn't I was unaware of the complexities of the situation and also had a very black and white view of it, like you seem to. I later learned that it's all shades of grey.

Regarding the original discussion, I personally don't like the 'competitive dad' type attitude, I think with an adults skills, physical abitlities and knowledge it isn't a 'fair fight' .

To my mind the role of father is to support, teach and guide, not to compete and get involved in one upmanship.

People who do this often irritate me, call it a fault if you will.

No worries, I'm sure your intentions were well meant.

My best to you and yours.

Someday a cop might tell you to jump and you won't ask "how high?" fast enough, and Cop A will beat the crap out of you and Cop B will stand close so while you are flailing you might hit him in the shin and they will charge you with felony assault on a cop.

Then if people read about it in the news, perchance it ends up on youtube, commentators will say the same things you wrote.

And you would deserve it.

More in the spirit of this thread, I once had a new corp member join up in Ranger Corp shortly after he joined the game. We showed him the ropes and he did learn fairly quickly. Indeed he was almost embarrassingly earnest about making himself useful and helping me out in any way I needed.

As he was a fairly responsible and capable fellow on a personal level, I eventually allowed him to act as a courier for me and transport (among other things) one of my T2 BPO's to a station a fair distance away from it's current location through high security space. I had needed it moved for research purposes and had personal commitments that evening that prevented me from doing it myself.

When I got back on it was to find that he had stayed up for hours so that he could confess that he had gotten himself ganked along the way, and the T2 print had survived and (of course) had been taken.

He was beside himself, more stressed than anyone should ever be about something in a video game.

I verified the loss via killboard, checked with a contact I had in that organization to confirm that this young man was not a spy of theirs and that they got the print. It all checked out, as I had expected it would. This guy was way too upset to be playing games with me.

It seems he had started out fine, going gate to gate as he should, but got distracted by something (I don't remember what it was at the moment) and left his ship on auto pilot for a few jumps. Of course, as luck would have it, that's all it took.

So rather than handle it as most EVE CEO's would (boot him, pod him, or likely both), I sat him down and had the long talk with him about not taking things so seriously. He already knew where he screwed up, and what he should have done to safeguard his cargo, so I didn't belabor the point. I just made him understand that it made no difference at all to me, set backs are part of the game, and we were all there simply for the fun and the challenge. I also made sure he knew that the print he lost was the least valuable of the ones I possessed (a T2 ammo BPO) and that I and our corp would survive quite nicely without it.

He stayed with me for several months after that, and became a solid EVE player. Eventually we parted ways when I put Ranger Corp on hold to merge the bulk of our members into another corp as part of the old Fountain Alliance... as he wasn't comfortable with the risks involved in Null Sec life.

Sometimes, even in EVE, being nice IS the right thing to do.