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Xenuria: CSM 10

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Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#301 - 2015-02-26 18:37:44 UTC

Mm.. yellow.

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.

HarlyQ
harlyq syrokos investment station
#302 - 2015-02-26 19:48:41 UTC
Xenuria wrote:
Kiryen O'Bannon wrote:
Xenuria wrote:
This isn't that difficult.

If you are not trolling and actually want to know the answers to the questions these upstanding forum posters have been posting than read the first post of the thread.

As a tactic, constantly asking the same already answered questions is ineffectual. You just come off as desperate when doing it.


Those answers only created more questions, which you didn't address in a satisfactory manner.

As for being desperate, you're the one competing for votes with however-many other people. Why would anyone be desperate in talking to you? Your candidacy has never been in a particularly strong position.


I hope you like crow.

Stop being a yeela belly chicken :)
Kiryen O'Bannon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#303 - 2015-02-26 19:57:51 UTC
Xenuria wrote:
Kiryen O'Bannon wrote:
Xenuria wrote:
This isn't that difficult.

If you are not trolling and actually want to know the answers to the questions these upstanding forum posters have been posting than read the first post of the thread.

As a tactic, constantly asking the same already answered questions is ineffectual. You just come off as desperate when doing it.


Those answers only created more questions, which you didn't address in a satisfactory manner.

As for being desperate, you're the one competing for votes with however-many other people. Why would anyone be desperate in talking to you? Your candidacy has never been in a particularly strong position.


I hope you like crow.



I think you're misunderstanding. You are the candidate; you need the votes. It might make sense to say another candidate is desperate if you are in a strong position relative to them, but it does not make sense to say this to people that are not running. What would any of us have to be desperate about?

As for the other candidates, there are enough that are in a strong position relative to you that ypur chances seem weak. It's possible you'll win, but it seems unlikely. I don't know why "crow" would have anything to do with a simple assessment of probability.

If you think you're in a strong position about where do you expect to finish? Do you expect to beat... Manfred Sideous, for example? Sugar Kyle?

Eternal Father, King of birth, /Who didst create the heaven and earth, /And bid the planets and the sun/ Their own appointed orbits run; /O hear us when we seek thy grace /For those who soar through outer space.

Alphea Abbra
Project Promethion
#304 - 2015-02-26 20:39:01 UTC
Kiryen O'Bannon wrote:
(long analysis is long)
Forgive me for asking, but what is your educational/work background?
You seem to approach the subject from a professional point (Or at minimum well-informed layman with a good sense for analysis), which is refreshing.
Myself, I study political science and have a broad background in volunteering for, organising or managing election campaigns.

Of course, discussing Xenurias campaign is mostly just fun and giggles for me, but the CSM campaign in general is interesting partly because I get to watch candidates interact with and react to voters and issues with nothing on the line myself.
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#305 - 2015-02-26 21:21:22 UTC
Alphea Abbra wrote:
Kiryen O'Bannon wrote:
(long analysis is long)
Forgive me for asking, but what is your educational/work background?
You seem to approach the subject from a professional point (Or at minimum well-informed layman with a good sense for analysis), which is refreshing.
Myself, I study political science and have a broad background in volunteering for, organising or managing election campaigns.

Of course, discussing Xenurias campaign is mostly just fun and giggles for me, but the CSM campaign in general is interesting partly because I get to watch candidates interact with and react to voters and issues with nothing on the line myself.

Ya know, originally poking fun at Xenuria was amusing as all hell, but the mroe I thought about it, I have tried offering legitimate advice along with several others about how Xen could improve his communication and public standing within the game, to actually stand a chance of winning for reals.

and we were called trolls.

Its like, he insult the people who only offer good advice, so obviously even he doesnt care about winning anymore


its just kinda sad.
HarlyQ
harlyq syrokos investment station
#306 - 2015-02-27 02:17:17 UTC
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
Alphea Abbra wrote:
Kiryen O'Bannon wrote:
(long analysis is long)
Forgive me for asking, but what is your educational/work background?
You seem to approach the subject from a professional point (Or at minimum well-informed layman with a good sense for analysis), which is refreshing.
Myself, I study political science and have a broad background in volunteering for, organising or managing election campaigns.

Of course, discussing Xenurias campaign is mostly just fun and giggles for me, but the CSM campaign in general is interesting partly because I get to watch candidates interact with and react to voters and issues with nothing on the line myself.

Ya know, originally poking fun at Xenuria was amusing as all hell, but the mroe I thought about it, I have tried offering legitimate advice along with several others about how Xen could improve his communication and public standing within the game, to actually stand a chance of winning for reals.

and we were called trolls.

Its like, he insult the people who only offer good advice, so obviously even he doesnt care about winning anymore


its just kinda sad.

I wonder what his ideas are on being a joke candidate every time he runs.
Kiryen O'Bannon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#307 - 2015-02-27 02:59:01 UTC
Alphea Abbra wrote:
Kiryen O'Bannon wrote:
(long analysis is long)
Forgive me for asking, but what is your educational/work background?
You seem to approach the subject from a professional point (Or at minimum well-informed layman with a good sense for analysis), which is refreshing.
Myself, I study political science and have a broad background in volunteering for, organising or managing election campaigns.

Of course, discussing Xenurias campaign is mostly just fun and giggles for me, but the CSM campaign in general is interesting partly because I get to watch candidates interact with and react to voters and issues with nothing on the line myself.


My educational background is in psychology, not political science and I'm certainly not involved with politics or elections professionally. However, I do quite a bit of analysis in my work and a lot of it is driven by political realities.

I'd say I'm basically a layman as far as political science goes, but as you say well-informed and good at analysis in general. What I've found is that many people go about problem solving essentially backwards - they come up with a solution that fits their ideas of what a good solution looks like and then try to fit it to the problem. This is a perfect example. He wants to get elected and so far can't, so he invents a solution of combating corruption and then looks for a problem for it to solve. You can see this because he shuts down when it's pointed out that he has not identified an actual problem.

The real problem Xenuria seems to face is that Xenuria isn't on the CSM, but he doesn't want to admit that, probably even to himself. However, it's pretty transparent because he doesn't know what to do once he's on it other than try to change the selection process.

I was completely serious about being curious to hear from him following the name scratching; I felt it was not fair to continue to hold opinions based on other people's accusations. I think the community is mistaken; he is not actually a troll. He simply does not truly understand the nature of the CSM.

Eternal Father, King of birth, /Who didst create the heaven and earth, /And bid the planets and the sun/ Their own appointed orbits run; /O hear us when we seek thy grace /For those who soar through outer space.

HarlyQ
harlyq syrokos investment station
#308 - 2015-02-27 03:11:18 UTC
Kiryen O'Bannon wrote:
Alphea Abbra wrote:
Kiryen O'Bannon wrote:
(long analysis is long)
Forgive me for asking, but what is your educational/work background?
You seem to approach the subject from a professional point (Or at minimum well-informed layman with a good sense for analysis), which is refreshing.
Myself, I study political science and have a broad background in volunteering for, organising or managing election campaigns.

Of course, discussing Xenurias campaign is mostly just fun and giggles for me, but the CSM campaign in general is interesting partly because I get to watch candidates interact with and react to voters and issues with nothing on the line myself.


My educational background is in psychology, not political science and I'm certainly not involved with politics or elections professionally. However, I do quite a bit of analysis in my work and a lot of it is driven by political realities.

I'd say I'm basically a layman as far as political science goes, but as you say well-informed and good at analysis in general. What I've found is that many people go about problem solving essentially backwards - they come up with a solution that fits their ideas of what a good solution looks like and then try to fit it to the problem. This is a perfect example. He wants to get elected and so far can't, so he invents a solution of combating corruption and then looks for a problem for it to solve. You can see this because he shuts down when it's pointed out that he has not identified an actual problem.

The real problem Xenuria seems to face is that Xenuria isn't on the CSM, but he doesn't want to admit that, probably even to himself. However, it's pretty transparent because he doesn't know what to do once he's on it other than try to change the selection process.

I was completely serious about being curious to hear from him following the name scratching; I felt it was not fair to continue to hold opinions based on other people's accusations. I think the community is mistaken; he is not actually a troll. He simply does not truly understand the nature of the CSM.

So what you are saying is he is incompetent and those a terrible csm candidate.
Kiryen O'Bannon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#309 - 2015-02-27 05:20:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Kiryen O'Bannon
Quote:
So what you are saying is he is incompetent and those a terrible csm candidate.


Yes. However it's not an incpetence that couldn't be fixed if he really wanted to. Unfortunately that would involve making some choices between adopting much more realstic ideas and thinking habits and maintaining his viewpoints and ideals. I suspect that making those choices or even facing the necessity of them will be too hard. It's just much easier to dismiss people as trolls.

Inability to make that sort of choice renders many people incompetent in many areas. His incompetence is not unique, and not a result ( as far as I can tell) of stupidity. Its a simple and very common overcommitment to excessively simplistic ideals. Lots of people do this because they dont want to be "sellouts". The other side of that is that idealists often render themselves ineffective, irrelevant, and therefore incompetent because reality is simply too complex or too far removed from their ideals to permit them to function.

Eternal Father, King of birth, /Who didst create the heaven and earth, /And bid the planets and the sun/ Their own appointed orbits run; /O hear us when we seek thy grace /For those who soar through outer space.

HarlyQ
harlyq syrokos investment station
#310 - 2015-02-27 05:42:38 UTC
It's sad that most people posting here have posted more than xenuria has especially with several people offering him help.
Alphea Abbra
Project Promethion
#311 - 2015-02-27 10:13:39 UTC
Is this an example of irony?
When the CFC-people are so upright, honest and helpful, you'd much prefer them to the anti-CFC candidate.

Kiryen O'Bannon I think you hit the head of the nail with
Quote:
The real problem Xenuria seems to face is that Xenuria isn't on the CSM
Personally, I think the solution is some personal growth on his part, but until then, I'll enjoy his CSM campaigns.
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#312 - 2015-02-27 15:41:20 UTC
I think hearts would be aflutter for Xenuria, if he just caved and did a remake of this video...

Give the people what they want Xenuria.

F
Draca
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#313 - 2015-02-27 20:27:05 UTC
"A vote for Xenuria is vote made in protest of the state of the game."

If this year's campaign is not successful then a change of message gathering votes from those who simply want to punish CCP could be an effective platform. Going darkside.
Omega Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#314 - 2015-02-27 21:41:50 UTC
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Dradis Aulmais
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#315 - 2015-02-28 00:04:09 UTC
I voted for him cuz trolz

Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896

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Kiryen O'Bannon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#316 - 2015-03-01 01:24:06 UTC
Alphea Abbra wrote:
Is this an example of irony?
When the CFC-people are so upright, honest and helpful, you'd much prefer them to the anti-CFC candidate.

Kiryen O'Bannon I think you hit the head of the nail with
Quote:
The real problem Xenuria seems to face is that Xenuria isn't on the CSM
Personally, I think the solution is some personal growth on his part, but until then, I'll enjoy his CSM campaigns.


Indeed. Ironically, despite needing to get people to pay attention to you in order to get elected , a need for attention for attention's sake is counterproductive in that regard.

I think there's a definite element of that here. In one respect at least, this thread has been an object lesson in "how not to run a CSM campaign."

Eternal Father, King of birth, /Who didst create the heaven and earth, /And bid the planets and the sun/ Their own appointed orbits run; /O hear us when we seek thy grace /For those who soar through outer space.

Aram Kachaturian
Aram Pleasure Hub Holding
#317 - 2015-03-01 11:23:45 UTC
The planets are almost aligned.

Xenuria, dont fail me.

You are the chosen one.

Servant of the Secret League, Wielder of the Monocle Clubhouse Flame.

Plug in Baby
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#318 - 2015-03-01 22:12:16 UTC
Voted X 2, I really hope this happens.

This is not a forum alt, this is a forum main.

HarlyQ
harlyq syrokos investment station
#319 - 2015-03-02 00:20:11 UTC
Popcorn eating makes you so thirsty. Drinks mountain dew
Dradis Aulmais
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#320 - 2015-03-02 03:42:41 UTC
Created several accounts to vote 30 days before this election

Hope the votes help

Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896

Free The Scope Three